Railpro

I would like to know form anyone who uses this system if they also have a DCC command station installed on the layout were they run both systems together. The reason I ask is i have read in a few places and even on Ring Engineering web site that there loco modules in a loco can be run on a DCC layout using their controller. I am currently setting up my layout with a Digitrax DB150 command station and have started to set up sections using the PM42. I would like to know if I would have any problems just running Railpro loco modules over my existing setup which from what I have read sounds like will work. Im not interested in a debate of which one is better Im just looking for some answers to my question. There was another post on here that I read through that this happened to. I have been using Digitrax for a long time and I am starting to get into JMRI at a friends house. I just happened to find out about  railpro and right now I really like what I see. If I can use what I have noe the cost will not be to much for me to switch over. I only have 3 locos with sound and a bunch dcc ready. I have not emailed Ring Engineering yet. I thought I would start here looking for some answers.

Thanks

Willy

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hirailer's picture

RailPro on DCC layout

I have operated my RailPro controller and loco on a DCC layout with no problems

RailPro throttles are full featured, top of the line product, capable of programming and controlling turnouts and other accessories .A fair price comparison would be a DCC throttle with comparable functionality.

Mel

CROSS RIVER RAILWAY

having more fun with RailPro

K-Pack's picture

To the original question

You will not have any issues running Railpro on your Digitrax system.  Railpro-equipped locomotives will only use the power from the rails supplied by the Digitrax system and ignore the DCC signal.  Keep in mind that the Railpro controller will not control your DCC locomotives, only the Railpro-equipped ones.  You can run DCC locomotives and Railpro locomotives on the same layout and the same time with no adverse effects....you just can't control the other without using the appropriate throttle.

I've run on multiple Digitrax layouts without issue.  On one of them I noticed that the voltage was very high (upwards of 16 volts) and the command station was set to "HO".  This puts the Railpro module in the higher end of safe voltage, but I haven't ever had a problem running my equipment on that layout, and I've done it multiple times.  The module will get warmer, but I can easily keep an eye on that because each module sends real-time information to the controller.  They've never over heated.  If your voltage is high on the Digitrax command station you can switch it "N-scale" if you feel more comfortable.....that put it right about 14 volts on that layout I was talking about.  

Other Digitrax layouts I've run on haven't had that issue, just the one.  Not really a problem, as Railpro can handle a higher voltage, but just something to be aware of.

-Kevin 

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DaveB

That is assuming you have a wireless receiver for those throttles and don't have to buy it.  A UR92 runs about $130 over and above the throttle price.

Dave

Building a TOMA HO Scale '70s/80s era
GMT-6

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 Hi Joe,  Digitrax UT4R is $96 and UT4D $107 including postage these days.....DaveB

Apples to apples, Dave, since the Railpro is a FULL FEATURE throttle and not a condensed throttle, is to compare the Railpro Throttle to the DT402D or DT402R, which are now around $150-$190 after retail discount.  You're still not ready to run trains though, whereas you still have to get a command station ($150-$240) and then a UR92 ($125)

This is where the wireless revolution makes huge strides - the layout rail power source becomes jsut power and power alone, while the digital signal only exists between the throttle and the receiver inside the locomotive/devices.  All that middle support equipment gets cut right out.

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" since the Railpro is a FULL

" since the Railpro is a FULL FEATURE throttle and not a condensed throttle, is to compare the Railpro Throttle to the DT402D or DT402R, which are now around $150-$190 after retail discount." 

  That's why I recommend analyzing one's needs instead of listening to the manufacturer's or  product zealot's hype. The fact is most folks prefer to run with utility throttles and only program the locos with their base station or DT402. The utility throttles are cheaper,smaller, easier to hold, and run just fine.  Getting direct throttle to loco connection also sounds like a good idea in theory but in practice it makes one buy the radio connection over and over like some groundhog day of writing checks for more expensive throttles and decoders that contain the connection, while a UR92 only needs to be paid for once and allows $20 decoders instead of $50 decoders.  Again , for anyone considering a new control system , check out the products yourself and figure out how you'll run the operations( will you really constantly re-consist multiple locos to one throttle for example?), how many locos, throttles ,etc. will you actually ever buy, sound or no sound, etc. than make the decision. If Railpro ever gets to the point where it's a standard like DCC then the product prices will drop due to competition and it will make a lot more sense. If it stays proprietary it will probably end up like DCS with  a small group of committed users? .......DaveB  

 

 

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Sounds to me like you're toeing the manufacturer line yourself, Dave...

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Benny's Index or Somewhere Chasing Rabbits

"Sounds to me like you're

"Sounds to me like you're toeing the manufacturer line yourself"

     No, I use whatever works best for the situation. Best to me includes performance, ease of use,availability, and cost. It doesn't include newness or different ness or any other non practical factors. If I needed a control system to consist many sound equipped  locos repeatedly I'd certainly consider Rail pro. If I needed a lot of non sound locos and signaling I'd more likely go with DCC. If I had one loco without sound I'd probably use DC. That's what engineering is all about, fitting the product to the need. Marketing is trying to sell the product to anyone regardless of their needs. See the difference? ......DaveB  

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That's a rather cynical view of marketing

Marketing is trying to sell the product to anyone regardless of their needs ...

Wow, that's a pretty cynical view of marketing. I know for MRH, marketing is trying to match product to need (and we're not alone in this view). If someone doesn't need the product, then frankly, I don't want their money.

Marketing as you've defined it is trying to part people from their money using whatever means possible - in other words, it borders on thievery. I just shake my head at seeing good marketing as shady - an ethical business wants to find and meet needs first and foremost. Profit at the customer's expense will ultimately kill your business, not grow it. People aren't stupid.

Dictionary definition of marketing ...

Marketing consists of the strategies and tactics used to identify, create and maintain satisfying relationships with customers that result in value for both the customer and the marketer.

Joe Fugate​
Publisher, Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine

Joe Fugate's HO Siskiyou Line

Read my blog

 "a pretty cynical view of

 "a pretty cynical view of marketing"

   Hi Joe, It would be great if everyone ran their business with your type of integrity but they don't. That's why we get junk mail,robo call, popup's, spam, and bait and switch. Sadly it's almost always all about the money. When's the last time you've seen fast food restaurants telling over weight customers they won't sell them another calorie and fat bomb and to go home and fix something healthy? .....DaveB  

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Let's move on.

That's why we get junk mail,robo call, popup's, spam, and bait and switch. Sadly it's almost always all about the money.

Fine, most of the businesses in the world are run by crooks, including RailPro (you implied as much in your original marketing post). Extremely cynical and negative.

This is getting really off topic, so let's move on, shall we?

Joe Fugate​
Publisher, Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine

Joe Fugate's HO Siskiyou Line

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