Paver sand

Toniwryan's picture

  I bought a 50 pound bag of paver sand today.  Sifting it through a fine sieve yields about 3:1 coarse to fines.  Since I model in N scale I am more interested in the fine material.  I went to Harbor Freight and bought one of their 2 drum rock tumblers.  I filled each drum about half full and tossed in a couple of heavy bolts to try and create a sort of ball milling action.  Here;s hoping it reduces the coarse material a bit finer.  I'll check it in a couple of days and let you know if it worked.   :)

 

Where/ what did you get?

I have been trying real hard to find some. A few questions on it if you don't mind

What area are you in? 

What store did you get it at?

What brand did you get? 

Any pictures of the bag and the product?

That little tumbler may not cut it for what you are after.  An old pillow case and hammer may yield faster and better results

Steve

LOWE'S

I got mine at Lowe's.

Terry

Toniwryan's picture

I got it at...

    Home Depot.  It is Mutual Materials brand.  I am in Vancouver, Washington.  I can get you a picture of the bag if you want, I found it in the garden center area near the pavers and other stone products.

 

Toni

Rio Grande Dan's picture

You can also use fine to medium Plaster sand

Personally I have used plaster sand which I buy at the big box hardware and lumber yards. Plaster sand comes in 3 basic grades being fine, medium & medium course. The medium is great for "N" scale as well as HO scale ballast Depending on what part of the country you live in. it comes in a variety of natural rock colors from a very light gray or brown to a medium tan.

Plaster sand for the most part is completely free of iron graphite and doesn't contain any type of magnetic particles making it very safe to use as ballast also it doesn't have much dust in it meaning it doesn't make mud when mix it with wet water. ( As I said it is metal free but take a couple of small magnates and test the sand yourself to make sure) If you buy the bulk sand the store will load you a pickup truck full (about a skip loader bucket 3/4 full for about $15.00-$20.00 or you can buy some new empty 5 gallon plastic paint buckets and they will charge you about $7.00 a bucked full including the cost of the bucket or bring your own buckets and it's around $3.00 per 5 gallon bucket and make sure you get the lids for the buckets .

I have also found that the medium course grade is great for making river bottoms when mixed in layers with the fine and medium grades of plaster sand.

One last thing, if your looking for darker colors you can mix it with tile grout coloring and achieve a number of different colors from very light to very dark.

Dan

Rio Grande Dan

Thanks Toni

I have been trying to find some since Mike's DVD/Article came out.  It's getting to be a personal quest for me to get some even if I don't use it.  Does it look like this? http://www.homedepot.com/buy/mutual-materials-50-lb-step-2-paver-sand-mb050pvsd000.html

 

Steve

Toniwryan's picture

That's it!

Steve, 

  That looks like the bag i picked up.  i think you found it.   Now I will have to check out the plaster sand that Dan mentioned.

Toni

 

Toni

Thanks Again Toni

I checked for the in store availability and there is none with a 100 miles.......literaly.  I really think that tit is a regional product.  I'll have to pick some up in my travels this summer. 

Really looking forward to following your progress !!! 

Steve

Toniwryan's picture

Online order

Order it online at www.homedepot.com and pick it up at your local store!

Toni

Toniwryan's picture

Sifting sands...

I wanted to check out how much coarse to fine material I was getting in the paver sand, so I did a little test.

one scoop into the screen and shake well.

Yields this much fines,

and this much coarse.  I think I can pawn the coarse off to some S or O scalers...

 

 

Toni

Leveling sand

Boy, this discussion just keeps burning on! The example above is not the product I use. It might be similar, but from the look of it, it is quite different. There is nothing "sandy" about the material I used, despite the name.

OK, the specific "Kolorscape Step 2 Leveling Sand" I used in both the V1 and V2 Allagash videos is distributed by a company called Old Castle Lawn & Garden out of Atlanta, GA. Below is the url. The leveling sand is not on the site, but several other Kolorscape products are. It has a list of retailers that carry the products, Lowes and HD are there. It might be worth a call to Old Castle to get the name of the nearest retailer that could potentially order it for you. My local ACE Hardware stocks it year round.

http://www.myoldcastle.com/products.htm

 

Mike Confalone


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