Mule_Shoe_and_Western

Novices be warned, building a model railroad is a messy business.  Owning a good vacuum cleaner during layout construction will benefit you throughout the layout's life.  Spend a decent amount of money on a good one.  Why?  Here are a few good reasons...

Using the family vacuum will cause you grief with the spouse.  It won't be there in the closet when she goes looking for it.  It will have plaster dust all over it.  It will be full every time she needs it.  Bad juju.  So get your own.

Get a canister vac with a long flexible hose.  You don't want to be dragging heavy hoses over your delicate scenery later on.  If it has a 2 inch diameter hose, buy a transition coupling and a length of smaller hose to use with it.  You will appreciate the extra length.  (No improper jokes please.)

For a larger layout, get a large shop vac on rollers.  Smaller layouts can use the smaller versions of these, without rollers.  I have one I nick-named R1D1.  If you get a small one, WEIGHT IT DOWN.  Mount it on a thick board or heavy base so that pulling on the hose won't turn it over.  These things are worse than a new dog on a leash.  I know a guy that poured 2 inches of plaster in the bottom of his tank to keep it upright.  

Make sure the one you buy comes with disposable bags, and a separate filter, preferably a HEPA filter.  There is nothing worse than having your vac spewing dust all over the layout.  USE THE BAGS and FILTERS.  All of the shop vac style vacuums can be ran without bags and filters primarily for water pickup.  You don't want to use it that way.  It becomes volcano of dust.

OK, so now you have spent the money, how do you use it?  First, the obvious.  You sweep the floor, vac the roadbed prior to tracklaying, etc.  That is the obvious stuff and I won't go into specifics, but understand all of these things gain extra points with the spouse because you are cleaning up your messes as you go.  

One thing I do is use some home-made hose reducers and a length of 1/2" tubing to clean up stray ballast prior to gluing it down.  If the suction is too great, lift the lid on the vac slightly and stick something thin in the gap to reduce the suction.

I buy my ground foam ground cover and it is not cheap.  When applying it, you always get some where you don't want it.  I can just vacuum it up but that seemed wasteful.  So, I built a scenery material trap.  I got one of the empty 5 gallon cans from my home center and drilled two holes in the top that matches my vac hoses.  I put the can in the middle of the large hose and small hose joint.  I installed my vacuum reducer wedge under the vac lid to prevent collapsing the bucket (insert experience here), and now I have a ground foam pickup trap that catches almost all of the misplaced foam prior to it going into the main vac.  I can reuse it elsewhere.

Do you use abrasive track cleaners?  Rub one on your work bench sometime and see how much dust it creates.  If you use one on your track, you should vacuum the right-of-way to get it up.  Otherwise it sticks to wheels, it gets into turnout points, and it can cause both mechanical and electrical problems.  Use the small hose on the vac to clear out the narrow gaps without endangering nearby people and pets.

A good vacuum is as important to layout building as any other tool in your arsenal. 

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ctxmf74

"The Importance Of A Good

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"The Importance Of A Good Vacuum"

  I actually have two. A big one on wheels with large diameter hose for the heavy duty jobs and a small one with a smaller hose that I keep next to my workbench to vacuum up sanding dust, drill chips, and plastic scraping residue while working on models. ..DaveB

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michaelrose55

I have three: A pretty big

I have three: A pretty big shop vac for all the dirty jobs, a battery powered vac for picking up ground foam and such and NOTHING ELSE and a second battery powered vac to clean the inside of my laser engraver.

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RSeiler

This thread sucks

Sorry, couldn't resist, somebody was going to say it sooner or later. 

Randy

Randy

Cincinnati West -  B&O/PC  Summer 1975

http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/17997

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ctxmf74

"This thread sucks" or blows

or blows if you put it in the other hole......DaveB 

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Graeme Nitz OKGraeme

A simpler way!

MSW your foam sucker upper attachment sounds good but I just use an old stocking. I cut it in half lenghtwise. then cut out a square which i stuff in the end of the vac tube and hold the extra on the tube with a heavy rubber band. Just vac then shake out comes your foam!

Graeme Nitz

An Aussie living in Owasso OK

K NO W Trains

K NO W Fun

 

There are 10 types of people in this world,

Those that understand Binary and those that Don't!

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Mule_Shoe_and_Western

This thread sucks

Yeah, it had to happen.  

Happy Holidays everyone !

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rsn48

Purchase a used vac from the

Purchase a used vac from the likes of Sally Anne or whatever.  If you've paid more than $20 for a vac, you've over paid.

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DougL

Small warning about super-fine plaster dust

Plaster dust, like ash from fireplaces, is very very fine and some of it gets past almost all filters.  Yes, even HEPA filters.  Plaster dust is abrasive and can cause a shorter motor life.  Most motors pull the vacuumed air through them for cooling.

I use a simple cannister vacuum anyway and expect it to have a slightly shorter life.  I also try not to sand plaster.  Usually you can shape, carve, and scrape without sanding.  

-Doug

--  Doug -- Modeling the Norwottuck Railroad, returning trails to rails.

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Jamnest

Central Vac System

When I built the roof (house for the wife) over my basement, my wife had a central vac system installed.  The vac guy talked her into putting two outlets in the basement. I did not want them at the time because I had a shop vac for my basement. She then purchased a utility attachment set for me to keep in the basement, as a birthday present.  I have to admit it was a great idea.   Cleaning up is easy. All of the dust goes to a canister in the garage. 

I have a battery powered "dust buster" for layout scenery construction.

Jim

Modeling the Kansas City Southern (fall 1981 - spring 1982) HO scale

 

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Bob Dye

I'm frugal (read cheap)

I use my wife's grandmothers Electrolux model G (it's about 50 years old) for the layout.  It is very quiet (for a vacuum), has decent suction and repair parts are readily available.  I had used the nylon-in-the-hose to capture bits for reuse, but since the Bosslady no longer wears them, and I sure don't, I just make sure that I use a new bag and retrieve whatever out of the vacuum bag.  In some cases, I have been able to have dedicated bags: scenery/ballast/fine saw dust.

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rsn48

Just talk to female

Just talk to female neighbours, they'll give you their old nylons.  Needless to say, its important they and you know each other well....lol.

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Bob Dye

Female neighbors

Ummm, don't think so.  None of the human kind wear nylons.  Not so sure of the squirrels, deer, or racoons.

Sorry for the hijack.

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Verne Niner

As long as the topic is wandering...

 

As long as the topic is wandering far from its original intent, here's something to consider when selecting a vacuum cleaner: you never know what you will find in the used vacuum bag!

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From 11 years ago, the legend of N Scale Norm...sucked into a vacuum cleaner in his first adventure. He survived hostile cats, shrink rays, and other potential disasters to retire comfortably with N Scale Sue in a trailer along the former ATSF in Flagstaff, Arizona!

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Benny

...

I have a good friend who like to reply to anyone complaining with this question:

"You know what else sucks?  Vacuum cleaners."

He has a lot of fans in his life.

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pipopak

An exit hose.....

... attached to the exhaust side of the vacuum to send the outcomings out of the house will also be a great improvement. Otherwise you will be picking up the same fine dust forever. Jose.

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WaltP

I had used the

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I had used the nylon-in-the-hose to capture bits for reuse, but since the Bosslady no longer wears them, and I sure don't, I just make sure that I use a new bag and retrieve whatever out of the vacuum bag.

Couldn't you (or have her) buy some nylons?  Wouldn't that be cheaper than all the bags?

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PeteM

I decided to sell my vacuum...

...as it was just gathering dust. 

I'll get my coat...

Pete

 

 

Pete M

Frying O scale decoders since 1994
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Benny

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When i used to polish my shoes, I bought a set of hose when they suggested it.

It worked.

Then I bought the Chloroframs as soon as I could and never looked back.

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