Ryan Boudreaux GoldenSpike
I was inspired by the MRH forum discussion thread  "Is there a right way to model railroad?" started by Irv (aka feldman718 ), and this thread got me to formulating and rethinking the herald slogan catch phrase for my Piedmont Division site and I came up with:
I like the sound of it and I especially like what it represents for all aspiring model railroaders, particularly those who are just starting out with building a layout or who are new to the hobby. So, let me break it down for you here in the three sections of the slogan! There are a few things you want to do first when starting out and here are a few of them to keep your focus without being overwhelmed. There are no tried and true formulas to starting out in the hobby or starting over with a new layout, but this slogan will provide you with some focus in the early stages or even when reworking your plan or layout.  
  • Dream Big ~ Shoot for the stars when you dream of the final layout or Railroad Empire and you want to have your end goal in mind. Then break the goal down into parts and pieces and start to think of the entire layout as a puzzle. Once you figure out the pieces you can identify one area to start and make this your first area to build on, remember to start small. Everyone has their dream layout, and making it a reality will take some considerations, so dream big and start small and plan for the future.  
 
  • Start Small ~ In the early stages of getting started with a new layout or even in the beginning of joining this hobby it can become overwhelming with the amount of information overload to absorb and it gets hard to maintain a clear focus.  Start by concentrating on one aspect of the hobby since there are so many areas that you can choose from just focus on the general aspects of the model railroad you want to have.
1.      Scale- On of the first things to consider is the scale you want to build on, and while HO is the most popular, it is not for everyone. I choose HO because my grandfather was into it back in the 1950's to 1960's and that was what I was most exposed to as a child growing up. But for some folks N scale is a great choice because you can model twice the real estate in the same given space for an HO layout. If you are new to model railroading give all the scales a preview, heck, even G garden scale might be your cup of tea, even if you don't have a green thumb there are many G scalers out there who started small too!
2.      Road name and era- Then think about what railroad or railroads you want to model. Are you interested in the B&O, or is our heart set on modeling the Union Pacific? Heck, maybe you really like the steam engines that the Southern Railway used until the 1950's. Whatever your railroad or railroads you pick you also want to consider the time frame somewhat, but there are also many folks who don't worry about this so you can decide later on about that one. Some folks like the steam era only and this would include any railroads that ran until the mid 1950's to early 1960's. For the steam to diesel transition era you can model the time-frame from the 1940's to the 1970's. And for any modern modeling it would be anywhere from the 1970's to today. This is a general guideline and some folks would argue about the time frames, but these are just guidelines.
3.      Build one piece of the puzzle - You don't have to build the empire all at once. In fact, it is better to start with a small area of the layout first and concentrate on that small area and then branch out as you build your skills and techniques. Maybe start out with a 2' X 4' area that will be the switching yard or staging track area. Build the bench-work, add the sub-roadbed and roadbed and then put in the track and turnouts. Then hook up your wiring and start testing out a loco or two with a half dozen rolling stock cars. After that practice with ballasting the track and then adding some scenery base here and there and then a structure or two and some trees.  
4.      Expand as you grow - Once you get the hang of the basics you can start expanding your empire from one edge of the module to create a branch or main line along one wall. 
 
  •  Plan for the future ~ Remember to keep the future in mind when starting out. Will you be moving a lot, will you have more room to build the layout, and will you have less space later on? These are some of the considerations when starting out with a new layout plan and by thinking through all the factors involved it will be smoother later on down the path to building your dream layout.
This is my plan so I'm stickin' to it, and if you can dream it you can believe it!
 
I believe I'll go tweak my plan again so I can be ready for the future!

Ryan Boudreaux

My current layout, a work in progress since 2018:

Norfolk Southern Alabama Great Southern South District (AGS) and New Orleans & Northeast (NONE) District

My deprecated layout, dismantled in 2017:

The Piedmont Division Model Railroad

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feldman718

Dream big, start small and plan for the future

First of all thanks for the plug.

 

I agree with everything you wrote and I am printing it out for future reference and use.

We all have to plan what we are going to build but the real railroads probably never intended to build what they have today. They might have had intentions of a vast continental empire but they all started out with plans to run from poiont A to point B and they built a small section at a time. So this is obviously something all of us should keep in mind. A small section is much easire to build and run on than a much larger one for all sorts of reasons including laying perfect or as close to perfect track and learning about all sorts of new things you may or may not have been exposed to before. Even if you don it before, each new layout segment presents you with new opportunitoes and problems to deal with.

So Dream big. We all do it. But we can't build big initially. But you can and should make provision for future expansion. This gives you the best of all possible worlds because it allows the dream to evolve and become reality over time.

Irv

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ChrisNH

Agreed!

I agree completely.. building a small starter layout has been tremendously helpful to me.

My take on the "start small" strategy is to build something that I don't plan to reuse outside of salvage for parts and structures. My reasoning goes to my own psychology. By not being committed long term to this representing my work, its easier for me to accept I may produce less then stellar results.. learn.. and move on. I don't get bogged down worrying about doing it perfect so am more likely to forge ahead and actually accomplish something. However, thats my personal monkey, I think building something that can be directly incorporated into a larger effort later is probably good advice for most people.

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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Benny

Excellent Slogan

I completley agree with the slogan - You could Almost put it on the MRH cover

But I disagree with number two.  Road name and era really are topics the enter the field much later in the game - and becomes solidified only after one knows what they like to see.  As evident by the rubbery-era craze [back/forward dating, the "vague" time periods, the changing of the guard] this Number two is truely never Set in Stone for even the most serious Model Railroad Hobbyist.

Number two, In my mind, must be this:

2.  Start with what you like.  The trains, the engines, the consists, and from there, work backwards to the places you like to be and where those sorties happened, and then model that, Whatever that may be.  It may be Union Pacific Coal; it may be Chicago meat pacing; it may be something as simple as an imaginary route connecting Ore from point A to point B because the place you like most doesn't have those trains coming through the area - not to say it wasn't feasible for it to have happened, but it just Didn't.

Regardless, if the raiload is going to please you, then it needs to be what you like to see.  And for that, you don't need to know eras or roadnames until much later - I know, you're trying to save us from that "nonconforming Junk" we all rush out and buy in the early stages, but I don't think it is really possible to cut that phase out of the equation. Its Just going to happen, and that first layout or the first couple will be Anywhere - Any time Layouts. 

 

Dream Big, Start Small and Plan for the Future.  It doesn't get better then that!

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feldman718

Excellent slogan

I agree with you to a point. Most people get started in this hobby because they buy a trainset. They run it for a while and maybe buy some more cars and track and then a powerpack and another diesel or sateamer or two. At some point they may hear about all of the things that we have seen discused here such as prototype model railroading and they find they really don't know all that much about the subject. They may buy a magazine or a book thattalks about a particular prototype railroad or someone's model railroad empire. At that point, they will probably start dreaming and that's when the slogan comes into play.

Irv

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Benny

I personally started dreaming

I personally started dreaming the second I hit the first Magazine and found the America's Hobby Center Ad in RMC, 1987.  I had barely had my trainset for a week.

And dream Big I did - I dreamed about Big Boys and DD-40s.  I started small though - my dad would only let me get 6 Model Power cars, they were very cheap.  I still have them, and they were great cars to expand my empire back then.  The plans for the future, back then, were nothing short of "more" and "what can I afford?"  If I coudl afford it, I got it.

If you have been in the hobby long enough [i'm only 27, see?] I do think there comes a point where one loses sight of that initial starting point that is the hobby.  I realize we are trying to get a larger numebr of people involved and excited about trains then previousl methodology produced, but then I consider that model railroads truely aren't for everyone.  Its a very niche hobby that for some strange reason, all of us enjoy - but not everyone else will.  No matter what we do, we can't change who people are.  As such, I contend that the Slogan works all the way back to the earliest days of the hobby - to that very first train set.

Even when people discover prototype modeling, it runs the same way - they start by dreaming about a Contienintal railraod from one ocean to the other and over time it whittles down to a simple shortline that ran 20 miles out in the middle of the desert.

The nice part about a truely good slogan is that it can be applied to any occurance of phenomon, at any point of development, and to any degree.  It's like a Scientific Law!! 

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Ryan Boudreaux GoldenSpike

Ryan Boudreaux

My current layout, a work in progress since 2018:

Norfolk Southern Alabama Great Southern South District (AGS) and New Orleans & Northeast (NONE) District

My deprecated layout, dismantled in 2017:

The Piedmont Division Model Railroad

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Benny

Like I said, Your slogan is

Like I said, Your slogan is Good - Scientific LAW Good!!!!!!  Univerally applicable, and now I even see you can enter this slogan at any point in the cycle - at phase one, two OR three!  And perhaps its possible to change up the order too!!  And I think everyone could make it to fit their own place in time, if they take the time to think about it - no matter how far along they are!

I personally think we start heading down the prototype path as we hit the third patch.  When we dream big, REALLY big, we see a world with EVERY railroad in it. That's BIG!  And even when we started small, we were planning big, but in reality, we realized we could only afford the Model Power rolling stock.  And so we planned for the future - maybe someday, we'd have that Big Boy, but for now, we made new plans in the short term future.  In my case, that was serving the town that was inside and outside of the loop of track floating on the piece of 3x6 plexiglass we had under the couch.  The track segments were held together by the little rubber pads that Tyco had in their Turbo Train sets, a Super Dumpster Diving Find of my father's adventourous nature.  Somewhere late in the process, I then discovered what switches are, and this new discovery completely changed my world.

There was one other reality that set in early: no matter how big my layout plans were, I had NO space growing up to even build a shelf layout.  There were too many toys, too many car models [I built them for over ten years] and other stuff in the way.  So a layout was out of the picture; there was no starting small, in a sense.  And in that, came the planning for the future - I could A) [dream the impossible dream of getting a really big place] orb) [conform my big dreams to a more realistic space].  And here is where planning for the future really starts hitting hard.   We realize we really can only do so much - or that certain stuff, like Big Boys, will not look good on 18" curves.  We then start whittling our dreams down to what we CAN have - the smaller locomotives.  and as we make these plans, we start discovering the differences between each prototype.

As the plans become a reality, one small step at a time, our dreams expand, and in the process we discover that our plan for the future looks bleak or boring so we change it all over again.  Sometimes little detials, soemtimes little areas on the layout, sometimes the entire layout theme or even, gasp, layout scale!

Natually, this opens the door to a Whole New Big Dream all over again!

When we first discover prototype modeling, we want to model the WHOLE prototype!   The reality of our small steps soon show us, however,  that our dreams might be too ambitions, so we plan something a little more realistic.  Phase three whittles it down into something manageable.  OR we start by planning to JUST model the three miles by our house.  Somewhere the big dream bites into the whole thing, and ten years later we wind up looking at an empire that covers half the Western Coast!  We certainly started small, and we DID plan for the future, but we never imagined it would get so big in even our wildest dreams!

Ben

P.S.  You have my complete permission to use as much or as little of this as you wish for future editorial purposes.  I have a feeling it would make a good comlum some day...and it might have once long ago, I just need to go through the stack of old MR!!

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