Doug Alexander

Does anyone know offhand how large a radius a helix would have to be to climb 3" in the first turn while maintaining no more than a 1% grade?

 

Thanks in advance, y'all!

 

Doug Alexander

Atlanta

Doug Alexander

Atlanta, GA

 

Modeling the Southern circa 1941

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Patrick Stanley

Radius = 47.7 "

The math: circumference of a circle (the trip around the helix) has to rise no more than 1" in 100" for 1% grade. So a rise of 300 inches is required for 3". Pi (3.14) x D = circumference. 300/3.14 = 95.54. Divide this by 2 to get the radius.

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ctxmf74

Radius of 48 inches

is pretty big for most spaces. That's probably why most folks use closer to 2% for a helix? .......DaveB

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joef

Keep in mind roadbed thickness is not zero

My helix is 40" and it's a 1.5% grade, or 3.77" of rise per trip around. Keep in mind that roadbed is not zero inches thick, so you need to add its thickness to the rise. In my case, I'm using 3/4" wide spline strips, so 3.77" minus 0.75" = 3.02 inches - close enough for my goal of a 3" rise. I detest long sections of hidden trackage and so my lower deck travels upgrade for 100 feet before entering the helix, allowing me to get to the upper deck with only 2.5 loops. Even so, fully one third of the lower deck's run is IN THE HELIX. If you dislike hidden trackage, then a helix is an ugly construct that's to be made as short as possible. If you can avoid using a helix entirely, then by all means do so. A Nolix is an excellent example of a layout configuration that avoids a helix entirely.

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Virginian and Lake Erie

Another way to fit in a helix

Another way to fit in a helix is to realize it does not have to be circular. For example a 4 inch rise should accommodate a reasonable thickness of road bed and provide more than the minimum clearance. At 1% that grade would require 400 inches of run, 2% would be 200 inches of run. A radius of 30 inches will produce 188.4 inches of run for a circle of track. Adding about six inches of straight track between the halves will get you to 2% adding 106 inches to each side will get you to about 1%, that is 8 feet 10 inches per side.

Changing heights of levels will save some and going to a larger radius will save some as well. One must choose wisely. I would consider minimum radius first and look at what can be done scenically with the space that takes up.

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