mikeconfalone

Jack,

You asked about the green on the Allagash Fs. Here is a comparison shot. The Alco RS32 is fresh from the paint shop. That's Scalecoat II BNSF Green. The F was painted with a custom mix of Scalecoat II Burlington Northern Green and the BNSF Green. Probably 80/20 BNSF Green/Burlington Northern Green.

That RS32 won't stay like that for long. I just haven't had a chance to weather it. By 1980, it would have been oil-soaked and ragged. This solid green scheme represents an earlier era on the railroad (mid-60s - mid-70s), with the gold dip scheme seen on the C420s in the other photos the "new look" for late 1970s and into the 80s. The Fs are literally playing out their final days. Note the F still has the original AGR logo on the nose, while the Alco has the modern "Pine Tree- A"

While we're at it, would anyone be interested in a video on "extreme diesel weathering?" I could demonstrate how to achieve some of these results, and discuss the differences between weathering say an EMD GP38, and an Alco Century? I'm not talking about a few squirts with an airbrush and calling it done, but rather taking time and hand weathering with a variety of mediums. It's fun stuff!

Thoughts or comments?

Mike

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LKandO

Make a million $13 at a time

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While we're at it, would anyone be interested in a video on "extreme diesel weathering?"

YES!

Alan

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Prof_Klyzlr

Yes Please!

Dear Mike,

As a previous member of the now-gone Model-Trains-Weathered forum, I for one would love some serious weathering info. Also, don't be afraid of promoting weathering that does _not_ require an airbrush! Not all modellers have, or can use an airbrush in their domestic situations, and I have to believe that high-grade weathering is possible without one...

Happy Modelling,
Aim to Improve,
Prof Klyzlr

PS Weathering tips for switchers would be very appreciated!

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GiJoe

YES!!

Count me in!

JB

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JC Shall

Interesting Contrast

Mike,

That's a really interesting contrast between the two units, and your explanation of the evolution of the paint jobs is good.  Thanks for the photo and response.  I'm looking for color ideas for my own railroad diesel paint and I really like the darker green of the F units.  I need something that will be a nice contrast to my road's herald (see the top of the post).  The paint jobs you've created are quite believable.

A weathering video would be a good thing.

At the risk of adding off-thread comment, the background scenery is again great.  I think you've done an excellent job with the rocks, trees, and especially with the covering of dead leaves and ground cover.  Would you care to expand on how you created this scene?

Regards,

Jack

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dnapper

Weathering Video

I'd enjoy seeing your weathering techniques.

David

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Dave K skiloff

Piling on

Of course, a good weathering video would be appreciated. I would definitely be buying that one, too.

Dave
Playing around in HO and N scale since 1976

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drsager

Video & Article

While I would welcome the video, an accompanying article (shopping list? compendium? appendix?) would be helpful, too.  Too often when it comes to weathering I find the author just assumes his/her audience has everything in place and ready to go.  For example, there was a recent MRH article on freight car weathering.  The author did his weathering using oil paints, which for some of us is not practical. Yet they offered no alternatives, nor did they cover any of the basics on how to get ready to use oils (e.g. are the brushes used for acrylics capable / worthy of use with oils? what's the best way to clean up? will the brush cleaner affect the paint if the brush is not thoroughly dry?).

I am not faulting the author - it's hard to know where to begin, and we all speak to that which we know.  However, I would hope one of the things the editor(s) would do is to make sure the audience has the necessary background (or references to where it could be obtained) to get up to speed on the topic, and/or suggestions (references/links) on how to do things with another medium.  (Being on the internet, that's one of the things that I would love to see MRH do more of as their archives grow.)

Your RS unit looks like it could have come right out of the package (which is how many of us start - no custom painting / decaling).  Being able to get it to look like the F-unit next to it not only takes the effort of applying the paint / chalks / pastels / whatever, but also all of the preparation and having the right tools.  I for one would welcome something that covers all the preparation, comparison of products (like an explanation of why you choose to work with Scalecoat instead of Floquil), pro's and con's of using one medium over another, alternative methods (like the individual that mentioned those who don't have / cannot use an airbrush), etc.

While this sounds like all basic stuff, having the right foundation is invaluable to everyone, whether we've been in the hobby for days or decades.  As the old (and most likely politically incorrect) saying goes, "there's more than one way to skin a cat."  I'm sure this holds true for weathering, too.  Your work is fantastic, but I'm not sure I can achieve the same results using the same techniques you employ not for lack of skill but for any of a number of reasons.  Since I am certain that you want us to have equally impressive models, help us work with what we have (or can get / use) to achieve something close.

Thanks!

Dave S.

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lvflats

DIESEL WEATHERING

 Yes I for one would buy a good weathering video for diesels. I model the Lehigh Valley so therefore

ALCo weathering is a must. And to echo others. A list of materials available nation wide would be

very helpful. I live on the west coast. Looking forward to more of your excelant work.

 Art

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Prof_Klyzlr

Dear MRH'ers, Mike C, Can't

Dear MRH'ers, Mike C,

Can't speak for anyone else, but from over 16,000 kilometres from "where the action is",
I'm personally not afraid to put in a little leg work of my own to locate the equivalent products...

I know I personally try to provide "US-centric equivalents" anytime I reccomend a given material or technique, as I fully understand that what we have down here in Aust may not translate. However, for whatever reason, I wouldn't expect others to provide "Aussie-centric equivalents" in US-based articles (IMHO requiring such "covers all Int'l options" materials-lists is a quick way to kill any potential volunteer article-writer's motivation to put pen to paper, it all simply gets "too hard, too quick"...)

AFAIK art supplies are reasonably common accross the US, and most common brands and items are also available outside the US (even down here in the Antipodes!  ). 

Besides which, once Mike shows the _how_, there's nothing to stop anyone nerving-up, 
looking around at the _what_ they have available, and Having-a-Go...
(who knows, your particular locally-available material might work better/easier for you than Mike's preferred options???  ).

Mike, looking forward to whatever you feel led to share,
rest assured those of us outside the US will "Have a Go",
no matter what level of "material source list" you provide...

(If the article/video is written to an adequate level "as-is",
then you will have automatically provided enough salient details about the specific materials,
such that those of us who _want_to_, 
should be able to locate our nearest local equivalents... ).

Happy Modelling,
Aim to Improve,
Prof Klyzlr

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PacificEd

I am interested in the

I am interested in the weathering video if you decide to do one.  I have your scenery video and it is very detailed and well done.  I'm sure one on weathering would be equally as great.  I love the Penn Central boxcar you use to check the crossings in the scenery video.

 

Ed

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avrinnscale

Interested? Yes!

I'd be very interested in this video.  I especially would appreciate tips on weathering without an airbrush.

 

Geof

Geof Smith

Modeling northern New England in N scale. 

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Prof_Klyzlr

+1 for non-airbrush weathering techniques

Dear Geoff,

Here here, not everyone has an airbrush...

Happy Modelling,
Aim to Include,
Prof Klyzlr

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35tac

Video weathering

Yes of course, your video's are Premo. I have ordered Alagash 2

Thanks

Wayne

 

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Bluesssman

Yes, Yes,Yes

I would be most interested in a good extreme weathering video!!!

 

Gary

Head of clean up, repairs and nurturing of the eccentric owner

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ratled

It never hurts to have more than one tool

Having a variety in weathering jobs givens a more convincing perspective.  Not every car looks the same on the pros but some how they can on the models.   Varying the amounts and techniques of weathering is the only way to go

Steve

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mikeconfalone

Full-length DVD on weathering?

Hey folks,

There seems to be interest in a diesel weathering video of some sort.

While we're at it, would you be interested in a full-length DVD on weathering not just diesels, but freight cars, track, and structures as well? In other words, a comprehensive weathering DVD, using all sorts of out of the box techniques.

Please let me know what you think about this.

Thanks.

Mike Confalone

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ratled

Absolutely!!

BTW Mike, what camera and mike did you use on vol 2?

Thanks

Steve

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Ken Glover kfglover

Go for it!

I would love to see a "comprehensive" weathering video!

Ken Glover,

HO, Digitrax, Soundtraxx PTB-100, JMRI (LocoBuffer-USB), ProtoThrottle (WiThrottle server)

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dkaustin

Don't forget steam engines...

and stationary boilers, etc.

Yes, I would be interested.

Thanks!

Den

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rrfaniowa

Yes, Yes, Yes

Mike,

I would love to get my hands on a diesel weathering video produced by you. The faster you get into production and MRH distributes the better!

Scott

Scott Thornton

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valeamor

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Hi Mike

     thank for all and go ahead with a dvd weathering heavy,medium,...etc

 

Pascal

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Dave K skiloff

Yes, if...

I think there are a lot of weathering books and videos out there, but they often overlook or assume certain things that are second nature to the experienced but not to the beginner or even intermediate modeler.  A comprehensive video on various techniques for various projects (locos, rolling stock, track, structures) that clearly demonstrates the techniques in detail with enough video (not just a quick shot of a spray here and there) I think would be not only very useful to me, but extremely popular with many modelers.  

I rarely buy books anymore because I'm a visual learner and I find it hard to interpret things from the written page (sometimes in jargon that is unfamiliar to me), so videos are becoming the bulk of my How-to library.  Please, bring it on!

Dave
Playing around in HO and N scale since 1976

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