Sugar Beet Guy

After a lot of fun with foam, the upper level benchwork for the new Great Western is installed and ready for track. All that remains is to install the Masonite backdrop.

This is the right side of the center peninsula. The Loveland GW yard is on the right, the I-25 overpass at Birds is at the lower rear and Officer Jct is in the lower front. One side of Johnstown and the start of the Welty Branch with sugar beet dumps is on the top.  The new fascia is not painted satin black yet.

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The ruling grade down Oklahoma Hill is in the lower right with the Poudre River crossing in the lower middle. The Windsor Kodak plant (served by the C&S) is in the lower right rear with the Windsor sugar beet factory on the lower left.  The entrance to the Eaton staging yard is at the far left of the left level. The industrial side of Johnstown is on the upper right and the Johnstown sugar factory will be in the upper left rear.  The white table is the "crew lounge".

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The lower level has the Windsor sugar beet factory with the C&S Greeley branch running behind it. The Eaton staging yard, C&S/GW crossing and GW wye are in the lower rear. Along the upper left is the branch to the UP Interchange and industries in Milliken. There are still lots of odds and ends stored on the upper level.

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Before I could install the upper level, there were some areas where I needed to rough in some scenery since access will be awkward with it in place.  I used a lot of scenery salvaged from the old layout - it is essentially background stuff and doesn't need to be finely detailed.

The major area is the east end of Windsor where the GW crosses the C&S and heads to the east (represented by the small Eaton staging yard).  A wye for turning engines in Windsor is part of this trackage and uses some of the C&S tracks, as does the prototype.

The C&S is the track on the other side of the road going from middle right to left. The GW main comes from the lower right and swings to the upper right.  The track in the upper middle is one leg of the wye. The red building on the right is the Dara Licht elevator (wink, wink).

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Another spot with a long reach is the tail track of Officer Jct which heads up the helix to Johnstown.  The track goes through a clump of trees which camouflage the tunnel to the helix.  It's not quite as dark as it looks in the photo but it is dark enough such that details of the trickery are not obvious. 

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A scene under construction is what I consider a signature scene on the layout. When interstate I-25 was constructed in the 1960s, an overpass for the GWR was needed.  The bridge over the road is very distinctive and I am in the process of scratch building it. All that is needed yet are very special handrails, ballast for the ballasted deck and paint. The grain elevator is a stand-in for the very distinct elevator that will also be scratch built.

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George Booth
Director of Everything, The New Great Western Railway
http://users.frii.com/gbooth/Trains/index.htm

George Booth
Director of Everything, The New Great Western Railway
http://users.frii.com/gbooth/Trains/index.htm

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LKandO

Living Vicariously

Lovin' it George. Congrats on the progress.

Alan

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caboose14

Great Update

Really enjoyed your update George. The first thing that strikes me is the feeling that you have a lot of railroad in your space, but visually, it doesn't look that way. Your scenes aren't cramped....at least from these photos anyway. I think that says a lot about your layout design. Very clean looking layout as well. Keep the updates coming!

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chesticus

I agree...

You have something really nice going there. I am very jealous. But in time I will get there as well. I am looking forward to some train shots.

Chesticus

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Motley

George, Wonderful layout!

George,

Wonderful layout! Absolutely beatiful work so far. The benchwork and facia looks very professional and clean looking.

Looking forward to seeing more progress.

I'm seeing your descriptions with Windsor, Poudre River,and I-25. This must be Colorado based layout? Please give us more detailed info.

Michael

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Sugar Beet Guy

For more info...

Thank you, Michael. I appreciate your kind words.

Yes, this is the Great Western Railway in northern Colorado centered around Loveland. It is based on the sugar beet industry in the area and is as prototypical as I make make it. Once I get finished with the major construction and track work, I will turn my attention to detailed modeling. It is an operating layout and I host monthly operating sessions.

The first entry in this blog describes the layout in general terms and other blog entries describe the construction of the upper level in detail.  I noticed I forgot to mention "Colorado" in the first blog entry - oops.

For a very detailed description of the prototype, layout concept and design and initial construction, please refer to my website (link below) - there is far too much to post here.

 

George Booth
Director of Everything, The New Great Western Railway
http://users.frii.com/gbooth/Trains/index.htm

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joef

Superb

George:

Superb job - what I notice immediately is the lower deck is well lit (for the most part - you do have a few dark corners down there, but not bad at all). On more than a few double-decked layouts I've seen, the lower deck is all the way from dimly lit to dark like the entrance to a cave - very disappointing.

If there's anything you need to get solved right away with a double-decked layout is how to light the lower deck properly.

I think there's nothing that demotivates me from wanting to work with a multideck layout more than to have poor lighting on the lower deck.

So bravo, George! Good job on the lighting ...

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rfbranch

Upper Level Fascia

George-

Congrats on your progress!  If I remember from your last post correctly your upper level benchwork is more or less just 2" foam.  Can I ask how you attached your fascia to it as it appears you were able to get drywall screws to take.

Thanks for the update; a really great read.

 

~rb

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rickwade

Very nice, George!

George,

Your layout is looking great!  It is very pleasing to the eye and I really like the detail.  Thanks for sharing!

Rick

Rick

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robteed

Great Western I-25 overpass

Hi George,

Your layouts looking great! I might have some photographs of the I-25 overpass. In any event I have video of GW #51 crossing I-25. You have managed to get the entire railroad modeled. Reminds me of my time spent in that area.

Rob Teed

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Sugar Beet Guy

Dynamic Range

Thanks Joe.  Your comment is greatly appreciated after all the grief I got over my unconventional lighting methods.

Luckily, the human eye has a bigger dynamic range than a camera - the lights look much more even to an observer than they do in the photos.  The background corners are a little darker than the front areas. I was worried about that but it worked out OK.  If I need to, I can add an extra bulb or two.  But so far I prefer to have the background areas out of the focus of operators.

 

 

George Booth
Director of Everything, The New Great Western Railway
http://users.frii.com/gbooth/Trains/index.htm

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Sugar Beet Guy

Wood Blocks

Thanks Rich.

There are short pieces of 1x2 glued into notches along the front edge of the foam. The fascia is screwed to those.  Refer to my "Multi-functional Foam" blog entry for more details.

The fascia provides more than a "finishing touch".  It protects the fragile edge of the foam, it helps keep the foam panels aligned at joints and it provides surprising vertical rigidity to the foam.  And, of course, it acts as a view block for the lights behind it as well as being a rather poor quality mini-reflector.

 

George Booth
Director of Everything, The New Great Western Railway
http://users.frii.com/gbooth/Trains/index.htm

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Sugar Beet Guy

Thanks

Thanks Rob. That's a nice video of Great Western steam - very rare.

I have lots of photos of the I-25 overpass. I took tons of photos before I left the area and I have a number of references with good photos.   Thanks for the offer, though.

George Booth
Director of Everything, The New Great Western Railway
http://users.frii.com/gbooth/Trains/index.htm

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Sugar Beet Guy

What Detail?

Thanks Rick.  I have barely begun to add details.  Track first, then models.  But I guess there are few.

George Booth
Director of Everything, The New Great Western Railway
http://users.frii.com/gbooth/Trains/index.htm

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Great Western Railway Fan

I also am modeling the Great Western Rwy

Hello George, Great layout! I also am modeling the GW. I am starting to build a horseshoe type layout in about 3/4 of a spare bedroom. My Brother and I used to live in Loveland in the 1980's and I became interested in the GW.

Not having room for a layout has given Me time to  research the Great Western and to decide what I want My railroad to look like. Of course without much space I wont be able to model much but I will start with Loveland  and Probably Johnstown. I might get one wye incorporated into my layout.

Do You know of other Great Western modelers? When I tell people I model the Great Western they think I model the Chicago Great Western...

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Sugar Beet Guy

Nice models

Hi GW Fan,

I don't know of other people modeling the GW but a friend in Colorado recently told me I have the biggest GW layout he knows of so there must be some others.

I like your collection of models, especially the McKeen motor car. Did you scratch build that?

Is the combine #100 the LaBelle kit?  I have an unbuilt kit that has special sides that match the real combine.

What did you use for the base of #90. It looks very nice. I have a Bachmann Spectrum Decapod that will be a stand-in for #90 until I get around to more detailed modeling.

My website has a lot of prototype info including maps of some of the areas.  I walked the tracks in Johnstown a few years ago and penciled in the actual tracks on a map of the town.  I don't know of another resource that shows the prototype layout of the town. My current layout-in-progress has a very large version of Johnstown. My previous layout had a much more compact version.

There is a new book out on the Great Western by Kirk Orndorff available on Blurb.com. It features the modern era GW from 1990 to 2010 and is a great reference for the area.   

Good luck on your future layout. Keep in touch.

George Booth
Director of Everything, The New Great Western Railway
http://users.frii.com/gbooth/Trains/index.htm

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Great Western Railway Fan

Thanks for Your comments

Hello George, Thanks for the comments on My models.

The McKeen motorcar is a Brass 50 footer. It had a pretty bad paint job on it when i bought it at a Train show a few years ago. The first thing I did was strip the paint and repaint it. Funny thing about that one was that before I researched the GW I didn't know the GW owned one. I thought I would have to scratch build one but soon found this one.

That combine is a Labelle combine that I made modifications too. I wasn't aware that LaBelle made the correct sides for #100.

My #90 is a Ajin Precision Brass model of #90. I just happened to find it on ebay. I looked for years before that one showed up. I'll have to look at the photo I posted of #90 because I have a Bachmann Spectrum Decapod that I was using before I acquired the Brass model of it. Maybe I posted that photo by mistake..

I have painted 3 of My Diesels in GW livery.. Plus I have scratchbuilt three  of the cabeese.

I'll have to check out that book by Kirk Orndorff. Thanks for letting Me know about that one. I have a large assortment of Great Western Books and Magazines. As well as post cards and photo's.

My Brother Robert and I were good friends of the late Neal Miller and I have some photo's that were given to Me personally by Neal. His Photo's of the GW are Excellent.

I'll keep You posted on My progress

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charles7

Kodak Plant

Hi

 

What rolling stock freight cars do you use to service the Kodak plant

 

Thanks

 

Charles Harris

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Les Staff WEUSANDCORR

I'm liking the progress, its

I'm liking the progress, its starting to take shape and the way that road just nicely helped fill in the wye area

Les

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