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Joe Brugger's article goes right to the heart of a number of important subjects.

I was just a little too young to have any Varney die cast locomotives,  but I was just old enough to see  Athearn-, Model Die Casting/Roundhouse, Penn Line and other manufacturers' HO steam engine models. And I was just in time to see the importation of Rivarossi steam engines.

My first large steam engine was an Athearn Pacific, and at age 13 I had carving knives and one small screw driver ( a give away from a gasoline company) as my only tools. As you might guess, these were insufficient to do much "miniature work like springing pilot trucks.

   I loved my Pacific.  It was B&M prototype (Irv Athearn, the company founder was a New England Yankee) and it was well proportioned, nicely painted and really looked like its prototype. If only that lead truck didn't keep jumping the track! As awful as it sounds- and it still bugs me fifty years later- I removed the pilot truck and made my Pacific into a fast running passenger  0-4-2.   I  cannot count the number of lawns I had to cut, driveways from which I had to shovel snow and other fun activities- to be able to afford that inexpensive engine,

The history lesson here refers to Joe's clear photo and description of the workings of sprung and weighted pilot trucks. On the prototype steam engine, the pilot truck is mechanically connected to the engine to help pull it around curves and help support the engine.  Varney was probably one of the first HO companies to include this feature, outside of some expensive brass locomotives. But for some reason, by the time I got into the hobby, sprung pilot and trailing trucks were not being used on kits and R-T-R steam engine models. It did represent a mechanical complication and was probably omitted to keep the price of the model down.

Finally, ( one million years it seemed to this youngster) I spotted one of the new Rivarossi plastic import USRA 4-6-2 Pacifics, marked down in the  AHM "Christmas in July" sale magazine ad. I could get one  for less than $20.00, ready to run. On the way home from the store with my new engine,I was already thinking of how to add weight to the lead and trailing trucks- but after a shakedown run on my 4x8 layout, I was surprised that adding weight was not necessary. The clever designers had used coil springs to help guide the engine around curves, and also exerted a downward pressure. This  obviated the need for adding weight, for the weight of the engine was helping to keep the lead and trailing trucks on the rails. If you are having problems with lead trucks jumping the track, it is not hard to add this feature. (you can use a single piece of thin steel piano wire from a music store)

Or take the low road and just have diesels on your layout.

But the moving valve gear and the chuffing of modern sound equipped steam engine models has enthusiasts even among young modelers today. An executive special or fan trip on your layout provides all the excuse you need to run steam in a modern setting. From museum lines and 0-4-0s up through Union Pacific articulateds,  there are many kinds of steam locos in special service, and are shown prominently in newspapers and magazines when the railroad runs them, so there is no excuse not to stable a couple of steamers on your layout.

Sorry I have been so wordy, but this important operating feature seems to have been forgotten- but fortunately, anyone reading Joe Brugger's article will be able to consider this method of keeping their steam engines on the rails.

Victor Roseman

 

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Warflight

Nice!

I would love to see full articles like this... reminiscing about our own youth in the hobby, and hos it still relates to the hobby today, but told as entertaining stories like this one...

Only, with lots of pictures too.

Funny stories, serious stories... maybe even a few "ask me how I know" stories thrown in...

The only thing MRH is missing, in my opinion, is a column like that. Lots of memorable magazines of my youth had such columns... usually aiming more towards humor (think the Red Green show... or the articles by Pat McManus in Outdoor life... or Dave Barry columns) Stories like the one above, that has that stroll down memory lane, maybe a tip or two... but just enjoyable reading.

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TomO

Another

Stories like this need the like button. Like Warflight, I love pictures too.

Tom

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ernie176

Wonderfull Memories

I still have my original HO trains, and they even run.  How they survived is beyond me.

Christmas 1956

Set 1 Varney B & O 0-4-0 Docksider, flat car, gondola, box car and caboose

Set 2 Revel UP SW1200, flat car, gondola, box car  and caboose

And an MRC Twinpack I think, Not sure on this as it died many years ago and did not survive.

Joe's and Victor's stories both reminded me of that first Christmas when the two sets were set up around the Christmas tree.  Then the week after Christmas they were moved to a 4 by 6 foot sheet of plywood on sawhorses in the basement. 

Dad should have known that part of the basement would never be the same again.   

Thanks guys for bringing back the wonderful memories.

Ernie

Modeling the New Haven RR Maybrook Line

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Warflight

Photos...

It's why we read magazines. You can have the world's greatest article, and no photos, or bad photos, and it won't get a lot of notice. (or get noticed for the wrong reasons)

You can also have a mediocre article but with awesome photos, and illustrations, and it will be an article that's talked about for years to come.

Photos, and illustrations are VERY important to a magazine.

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ernie176

Here are the pics

Hard to believe these are all over 60 years old.

The Varney stuff that I could easily find.  The switches came long after the train set and most likely after I got some Atlas switches.  Hence the Varney switches were never opened.

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Revel Note the Kadee on one end of the caboose.  In the 70s I found out about Kadee couplers and started putting them on locos and rolling stock.  I don't remember the SW ever having hand rails.

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Later additions.  Yes the Athearn Hustler left the track many times at about 400 scale MPH.  I don't remember  when the Revel 0-6-0 Omaha showed up.

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More later additions note the "Built by Lionel" on the Virginian.  These may have been a birthday present after the 2 Christmas train sets.  The Virginian never did have hand rails.  I am Pretty sure that it is on an early Athearn GP7 frame. 

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Modeling the New Haven RR Maybrook Line

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railman28

no thanks

No Thanks, I don't need walks down memory lane.  Just what works now.

Thanks, but no thanks

Bob Harris

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oldcup

Great Post is why we need a like button or a tick

Is it hard and expensive to add a like button?. Digital Newspapers have them as standard, rather  monotonous to have a lot of I likes...

"No thanks " I took as being a bit mean and not necessary.

 

Kenn from Aus.

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Moe line

Bachmann Mountain

The addition of pilot truck springs on a Bachmann Mountain, and Mikado models along with Athearn Genesis Mikado would be a great addition to help keep the pilot trucks on the track, however I have not had time to do it on my models. All of the above mentioned models have problems with the pilot trucks constantly derailing.

My old Mantua models had the springs, and more weight to keep the trucks from derailing, and I fail to understand why the other manufacturers were too cheap to install the springs. So, I will have to find the article mentioned above in the original post for the techniques to install the springs on my models. Jim 

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Milt Spanton mspanton

Old equipment

I get Bob's comment.   Not that we can't enjoy our best memories, but I still have some of the old stuff of my youth, and they performed so poorly, its a wonder they didn't chase me from the hobby.

I know it was all I could afford and probably all that there was back then, but it was a huge exercise in frustration for this one-time teenager, who, as mentioned above, was also without the tools or knowledge to cope with the issues.

- Milt
The Duluth MISSABE and Iron Range Railway in the 50's - 1:87

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Warflight

Memory Lane.

I still enjoy the stories... as for the old stuff, well... part of my enjoyment of the hobby, is making the old stuff work well, and hearing from others who do the same.

My Norris was an older model (not that old) that I made work with DCC and sound... "Getting Back to My Trains (Upgrading Old Stuff, FW&DC in 1930s)" is one of my favorite blogs here...

My Norris:

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It's a dreaded "Bachmann", with plastic gears! Everyone screamed at me "DON'T BUY IT! YOU'LL WASTE YOUR MONEY!" (it's my best running engine, plus, it was a lot of fun to build, update, and upgrade... what's a hobby if you can't tinker?)

Coming into someone's thread just to comment your dislike of the thread is a bit uncalled for, childish, and not what this forum is about.

But I guess, if Facebook, and Social Media, and the kids these days have taught me anything it's "If you can't say something nice, post it all over other people's blogs, and forum postings, and make no apologies for it"...

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Grenzer47

Those were some happy days

Thanks for the recollections of those 1950’s train sets. Some of that Varney and Revell equipment was actually not bad. Both Little Joe and the SW were decent models, both companies had pretty fair flat cars, gondolas and cabooses. Boxcar were a bit more iffy. But much as I’m always interested in the models of the 50’s  this is the first time I ever knew Revell made a wood boxcar. I guess you learn something everyday, or so.

Lindberg produced some really outstanding models and great freight car trucks as well. The trucks are being produced again and they’re still very fine. I was an American Flyer guy at the time but was always envious of all the great models in HO. I finally gave up on trying to pursue scale S modeling and jumped the scale fence around 1962. Good days and great memories.

Barry P.

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Graham Line

Reading

The outfit that produces Railroad Model Craftsman is about a year into HO Collector magazine.  Maybe there's some nostalgia oozing out of that publication you would enjoy.

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Virginian and Lake Erie

I took the unhappy part to

I took the unhappy part to mean the trip down through the past. Not everyone likes the quality or lack there of of the old models. I appreciate them for what they were and because of them and other things I learned how to fix things. Lots of things from models to cars, tractors, houses, plumbing, etc. You get the idea.

Now this skill set had another positive effect. I had my son help me with many projects while he was growing up and it motivated him to do really well in college. He is now a CPA and doing very well. His comment to me one day was Dad you really have to know a lot and that is hard work (we just roofed a house). I know you save lots of money by doing everything yourself but I am going to get a good job and hire people to do this when I grow up.

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