redP

My design is a double  main. The industry in question of on the eastward. Im trying to stay true to the prototype as much as possible. So here is the problem. The turnout is on the east side of the industry with a long lead that balloons back to the industry. I dont have the room to set the industry back that far. The diagram shows the correct orientation for the industry, but the turnout is on the wrong side. The track chart does show a nearby industry with an opposite side turnout. So not all turnouts face the same way. So I can have either the correct orientation for the industry or the turnout, but not both. So do I move the turnout to the east side which out be correct and do a mirror image of the industry or do I leave it the way it is?

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 Modeling Penn Central and early Amtrak in the summer of 1972

 

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mark_h_charles

tell us more, please

We need more info. If you want to be highly prototypical, what time frame, and where are the crossovers within a mile or so. Are you modeling the C&NW?

On a model RR, lack of space usually calls for compromises. Orient your sidings the other way, so trains running top to bottom on the leftmost track will have a trailing point move.

Mark Charles

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George Sinos gsinos

Copying the prototype is an

Copying the prototype is an admirable goal, but work through the actual operation on your model railroad and make the plan work for you.

Long term, you need to figure out what drives the maximum enjoyment of your hobby. 

gs

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redP

Time frame

I model Penn Central and Amtrak in the summer of 1972.  According to the track chart the crossover is 2 miles away.

 Modeling Penn Central and early Amtrak in the summer of 1972

 

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mike horton

Use modeling licence,

and have turnout working same direction as main. Trailing instead of facing, for ease of operations.

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Ken Rice

How will it operate?

What job is going to work that industry, and where does it come from?  A facing point move means a shove from a nearby runaround, or working it through a nearby crossover from the other main.  Both of which will introduce a bit of blockage on the main.  If you want to slow the pace of operations that might be a good thing, if you’re planning on running a lot of trains that might be a bad thing.

You could mirror the industry and trackage to the other side off the other main, or you could mirror it on the same side but just flip it end for end so it becomes trailing point of that same main.

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ctxmf74

direction of service

  I'd probably keep the turnout facing the correct direction then build the industry in the space left. For replicating operations the direction of movements is more important than the position of the building. If you are more interested in modeling the building as scenery you might come to the opposite conclusion and just serve it some convenient manner....DaveB

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redP

Thanks

Thanks for the input guys. I think Dave is right. I should have the correct position for the turn out to replicate the prototypical operations. So I will mirror the industry.

-Scott

 Modeling Penn Central and early Amtrak in the summer of 1972

 

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debaker02

Forget Exact Prototype

Hey, I would figure out an aspect that stands out, and then do that. For the track, pick something that feels realistic in general... You might end up feeling better with a key visual part modeled and the track being simple but very realistic. Aka one long siding often feels better than a few small ones. Davif
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monsterrailroad

I strongly suggest you go

I strongly suggest you go up, that is the right way to go. 

Big Al Mayo

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trainman6446

Or, instead of having the

Or, instead of having the crossover " 2 miles away ", locate it just "north" of the industry. That way you can switch it like the prototype did, only with the crossover a lot closer. 

Tim S. in Iowa

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RSeiler

It's all about the turnouts...

You've already come to the correct conclusion, but just to support it and Dave's advice, I started with the number and direction of turnouts at each industry on the prototype and made my track plan from there. When modeling the prototype movements, turnout position and direction is key. The length of your tracks will necessarily be shorter, but then, so will your trains, but as long as you get the turnouts correct, you will be making the same moves as the prototype, albeit with fewer cars. 

As an aside, I've done this in a couple of places and didn't really understand why the turnouts were located where they were, but then later learned why from people that worked that industry.

Follow the prototype, and you will never be wrong.  

Randy

Randy

Cincinnati West -  B&O/PC  Summer 1975

http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/17997

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