Sandy Saunders

I must start this with a bit of backstory, my name is Sandy Saunders and I live in Worcester, England.  For the last twenty years or so I have been a member of an N Scale modular group ( Snake Bend - link) and have found it enjoyable and fulfilling.  Two and a half years ago I was diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease.   At first the didn't make a difference to my involvement in model railroading other than problems controlling my hands, but last year I felt the need to accomplish something which was unique to myself rather than part of a greater collective effort.  

When we moved to our current house in 1998 we had the loft converted to give me room for building a layout.  Although I once made a start, it didn't go anywhere much as I felt somewhat limited by the low roof and the fact that I was enjoying working with modules.  Restarting this effort seemed to be the best way to achieve my aim of a proper N scale layout featuring the Chessie System for which I already had plenty of rolling stock.

Fast Forward to July 2016, I took the baseboards from my previous attempt and ripped the plywood surfaces from them.  New 9mm plywood tops were screwed in place using the old frames and legs, a mistake by the way.  When assembled there were noticeable sags which had to be levelled using wedges, plus the whole thing has a slightly flimsy feel, although that has gone now that everything is screwed together.

 

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The baseboards, taken together, made a space ten feet wide by two feet deep, four feet at the ends.  There is little headroom, I can only stand up in the middle and I'm only 5' 6", for this reason the tops of the baseboards are only 79 cm/31 inches high and are designed to be worked whilst sitting in a chair.  With the ceiling so low I wanted to lay the track which did not cross the individual baseboard edges, which included all pointwork, and wire them separately.  Of course, to start I need to decide on a track plan.  I don't really draw out plans either on paper or computer.  I worked for the railway here in the UK for some years and worked in signalling design (and thus by extension track design) for part of that time.  So I find it possible to envisage a layout in my head.  The baseboards were joined up and I roughed out a track layout using old track.

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The aim of this was to prove my "design in my head", check that point switches were directly over important bits of the frame, make sure that there were no overtight curves etc.  The next step was to do the wiring.  Now I had already decided to keep that to a minimum, not too difficult with DCC of course.  Additionally the points would be worked by solenoid switches and then only when on the main line or distant from the baseboard edge.  Anything easily reached will be switched by hand.  I'm also going to give street and building lights a miss, it is daylight all the time in my new world.  Remember that with Parkinson's Disease it is difficult to control your movements and fiddly wiring and soldering are difficult, that solder is darned hot when it suddenly jumps at you.

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It was certainly easier to wire the baseboards when they are upended than reaching up from underneath.  although I have found that it is more convenient and easier on the arms to reach up from underneath on a low layout (31 inches remember).

The next stage is to assemble the individual sections and complete the trackwork and associated wiring, but first I wanted some sort of back scene.  My choice of location for the layout, mostly flat Michigan, was dictated by the fact there was little headroom for hills and, of course, the Chessie System had a strong presence there.  The imaginary line is supposed to run between Bay City and Manistee, although the locations modelled are figments of my imagination.  There are a lot of trees in this area, so that was what the backscene needs.  About this time I watched a video on Trainmasters TV on painting backscenes which gave some good guidance on painting trees.  So I copied the techniques, albeit not to the standards of the presentation.  The trees were painted directly on the wall which was already painted sky blue.  I have to confess that I have made little effort to reach the highest standard of scenery, my time in modelling is limited before the hands become too shaky to achieve anything.  I'm aiming for a more impressionistic effect, much use has been made of chalks on the ground surfaces for instance.  Once the backscene was finished the baseboards were joined together and the track and wiring completed.

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Work started in July 2016 and the above photograph was taken in January 2017, so progress hadn't been as fast as I wanted, partly down to the fact that my wife and I had spent two months in France in our motorhome during September and October.  However, it was obvious that I needed to press on, this was only the first stage on a layout which was intended to stretch all the way round the loft.  Probably five years work even if I could put a lot of time into it.

Soon I was able to call the track complete and the first locomotive was run on 2nd February.  

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Further work saw a fascia fitted and the top extended out to it.

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I also started work on buildings for the layout, something I enjoy much more than woodwork and electrics.  Although again Mr Parkinson makes things difficult, particularly when painting.

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For some reason, I don't know why, I started doing the scenery and buildings at the left hand end of the layout and worked towards the right, a point I'm reaching about now.  

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The fascia remains unpainted, I really can't decide what colour to use, any suggestions will be welcomed.  

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When I finish this section I will be building some staging off to the right as you look at it here, probably about six tracks as I'm not planning to have more than a few trains running each day when I reach the operations stage.  The layout will continue round the corner to the left, round a small peninsular and down the wall behind me as I take this photograph.  Eventually it will come to a town with a yard from which a train or two will service this location.  That's an autoparts plant you can see in the photograph above which will be the source of most of the traffic here.  There is also a team track at the left hand end.  So that's where I am, there is much more I could say, but this is enough for now.  

Sandy Saunders

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ctxmf74

Nice looking layout Sandy

 You've got a lot done in a year.  I like that scene with the campers and hedges, I can't recall seeing that on a layout before. I need to pick a color for my fascia too so I'll be interested in seeing what you use......DaveB

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pschmidt700

Congrats!

You've accomplished much in spite of a serious health problem. The layout looks great!
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Deemiorgos

Nice work and congrats,

Nice work and congrats, Sandy. Look forward to seeing more.

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Michael Watson

Very nicely done !

Working within your limitations Sandy...I think you are doing great ! I love the curved fascia...and your backdrop painting fits perfectly. Can't wait to see more...and I will follow along.

Michael

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steamhog

Carry On !

Excellent explanation and documentation of good work -- may you "sleep like a kitten" as enjoy your accomplishments.   https://cohs.org/chessie/

Chris

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Al Carter tabooma county rwy

Good Work!

Sandy, dealing with those sloping ceilings can be a real challenge, and you've done a great job making your space work.  I too have sloping ceilings in a room over my garage and it has presented more challenges than I envisioned.  Part of model railroading, I guess, "imagineering" our way past obstacles.

As to the fascia color, on my previous layout, which had a city as well as a lot of country/rural scenery, I chose a medium green.  My current layout is all urban/industrial, so I'll probably choose something in the gray color palette.

One thing I found that I really like - I chose a "satin" (or was it semi-gloss"?) green for that previous layout's fascia, and it was very easy to wipe clean of fingerprints, smudges, spilled scenery materials, etc.  If you chose to use a flat color, you'll find that it is much more difficult to keep it pristine.

Good luck and keep us posted on your progress!

Al Carter

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Virginian and Lake Erie

Pick a satin or flat color

Pick a satin or flat color that looks close to control stations used on your prototype railroad. You likely have a picture available in one of your books or via the Internet. Hopefully your illness will not prevent enjoyment of the hobby. Looking forward to more updates.

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Rich_S

Chessie System in Michigan

Hi Sandy, You are much to modest, your layout looks great. I look forward to future progress photos of your layout. As for a fascia color, I'd pick a flat light gray like the B&O / Chessie System used on their interlocking towers. 

 

 

Cheers,

Cheers,

Rich S.

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Sandy Saunders

Fascia colour ideas.

Thank you to Al Carter, Rob and Rich S for their ideas.  I wouldn't have considered C&O grey I must admit.  But it occurs to me that if paint the fascia in a light grey and then trim it in a darker shade as per the tower that might look quite good.  I will pop into the hardware store tomorrow and see what they have, I can use a gloss or satin varnish if necessary to keep its appearance up.  Using masking tape will, I hope, help with doing the trim.

Sandy

 

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Sandy Saunders

The other side of my railroad hobby.

First I must thank you all for your kind comments, they are a great encouragement to me.

I mentioned above that I belong to a modular group, known as the Snake Bend group.  Last Friday, 11th August, we met for a three day meet and it might be a nice little diversion from my own layout.  Friday is mostly spent setting up which takes until mid-afternoon.  The layout follows the designs of one of our members, David Matthews, and is different every meet.  The layout for this latest meet looked something like this, (the lighting in the room is not good and my hands shake somewhat, so apologies in advance for the poor quality of the photographs taken on my phone).

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To give an idea of the size, the staging in the centre is 32 feet long.

We were joined for the weekend by a contingent from Yorkshire who brought along this nice line-up.

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My own small contribution is two four foot long modules going under the name of Lapelle, Michigan. 

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My neighbour in the setup during the weekend was Gavin Fry who has a pair of fine modules which have withstood the test of time.  He looks after them and updates as necessary, they are about eighteen years old now.

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I have plenty more photographs of the various modules, but won't try your patience.  In the next day or two I will start work on the loft layout again and will post about my progress as it goes along.  As a taster, this is mock up of the auto parts plant which will generate the bulk of the traffic in my as yet unnamed town.  Once it has a bit more detail and is painted, this will be a sort of place-holder until I can produce a decent representation of the plant.

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Finally, can anybody tell me how to upload these photographs as thumbnails?

Many thanks for your interest.

Sandy

 

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Rich_S

Three Day Meet Photos

Sandy, Thank you for posting photos of your modular groups layout. The scenery, track work and trains look fantastic, very well done. I look forward to not only seeing more photos of your home layout, but also of your clubs modular layout.  

Cheers,

Rich S.

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Sandy Saunders

A train arrives in town.

Having got this far with the layout, I thought it would be nice to have a train come to town.  In truth there is nowhere, yet, for this train to go to and from, but it's nice to see one on the tracks.

The train shown is a local containing cars for the industries in town, although the plan is for through trains running the length of the layout to drop off and pick up cars.  The auto parts plant will be service by its own switcher which you can see stood outside the yard office in one or two of the photographs.  There isn't much of a yard to be honest, only one track in use and the remnants of another lying in the weeds.  Formerly it was much larger, but the land was sold to the auto parts plant to accommodate an expansion.  The result is more traffic for the chessie, but less space in which to switch.

A staging yard will be the next stage, although there is still plenty do on the town.  However, it will at least allow me to run a train from off-stage and do some switching.

Sandy

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Rich_S

Layout Update

Hi Sandy, I like your ex-Seaboard Air Line ALCO RSD yard switcher, is that the name of the leasing company "Lease Line"?

Cheers,

Rich S.

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Sandy Saunders

Lease line locomotive

Rich

I bought this locomotive recently from an estate sale.  The previous owner was a good friend of mine, I wanted to show willing and buy some of his stock even though it didn't really fit in with what I was doing, or so I thought.  I realised that I needed a switching loco and made a bid on a MP15 which turned out to have problems and took the RSD2 as a substitute.  It has turned out to be perfect for my needs.  Baz, the previous owner, had applied the Lease-line decals, from where I know not, and it looks the part as an aging loco put out to grass.  A quick look on google does not show an obvious candidate for a company called Lease Line so I'm not sure where the decal comes from.  

I will weather the loco some time and make it look its age, 25+ I would imagine.  I'm not sure what SAL did with its RSD2's when they retired, but many Alcos seem to have migrated to uses like this.  This one runs like a dream as Kato locos should.

Sandy

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Sandy Saunders

The auto-parts plant takes shape.

The slow scenic advance of the layout has started to make a difference at the auto-parts plant.  The basic shape of the place is now clear, albeit with the main plant represented by a place holder until I manage to produce a decent building.  Something a bit lower and less obtrusive will be the aim I think.

The long blue building is where the cars transporting the parts out to car builders are loaded, some inbound loads arrive here as well.  The housing in the foreground represents the "wrong side of the tracks" part of town, all of these buildings are laser-cut wood kits.  Even the burnt out house is made from off-cuts from these kits.  Behind the housing is another unloading facility, here steel coil and sundry supplies are brought in and scrap sent out.  Some work filling in details remains as you can see, a back scene is also required.  After this photograph was taken I painted the fascia and this is almost complete now, just another coat, the track diagram of the pointwork and a coat of varnish to do.  Oh, and I still haven't thought of a name for the town.

Sandy

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Sandy Saunders

The fascia is painted - not before time!

After some prevarication, I obtained some paint for the fascia.  Bearing in mind the recommendations posted above by Rich S, Al Carter and Rob I went for a light grey colour.  A darker grey outlined in white has been used for contrast where parts of the track plan is shown around the point switches.  The paint is one designed for kitchens and bathrooms and is supposed not to stain, let's hope so.

Not much more left to do on this section now before I move on to the staging.

Sandy

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Rich_S

The fascia is painted

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I went for a light grey colour.  A darker grey outlined in white has been used for contrast where parts of the track plan is shown around the point switches.

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Hi Sandy, I do not know if it's the lighting or camera but your fascia looks pink to me? The dark gray with white trim for the turnout switches looks good, but the base coat looks more pink than gray? Does it appear that way to anyone else or am I going color blind in my older age?

 

Cheers,

Rich S.

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Sandy Saunders

Pink is the new grey, or vice versa

Hi Rich

Thanks for your post, now you mention it there is a definite pink tinge in the photograph.  This is not there when you see it with the naked eye, so I guess it is a combination of the artificial light and me using a camera phone.  The dark grey looks almost black as well.  If you are familiar with Digitrax equipment you will know that they use light grey as well, not pink like it seems to be in the photograph.

One thing I found was that where I had put round head screws and the point switches in beforehand it made life difficult for masking up.  This is why one of the switches doesn't match up with its proper location in the diagram.  Next time I will do the diagrams and then drill out the holes for the switches.

Anyway, I will try using a proper camera next time and see how that turns out.

Sandy

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Color cast or saturation

I just saved and tweaked it. More like this?

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Sandy Saunders

Showing its true colours

That's it, you have the colour scheme exactly, thanks Neil.  

Seeing the reference to TOMA in your signature line, prompts me to mention that I was pondering this a few days ago. Essentially my layout is a TOMA layout, at least to a certain extent.  I am building one section at a time and bringing it to a state approaching completion with mainly details needed to finish it then moving on, or that's the plan.  

Looking at the criteria you have listed in your blog, my layout compares as follows.

1. Width - it is too wide really, with the boards, so far at least, being too large at 2' wide to fit easily down from the loft.  It could be done though.....

2. Length - Nothing so far exceeds 4'.  I intend to keep it that way.

3. Transitions - I haven't considered boards or anything like that and probably won't.  I screw the individual baseboards together and lay flexi-track over the join.  Should I wish to move the layout I will lift the flexi-track and replace with new.

4. Backdrop - The slope of the roof sort of forms its own shadow box in a way as I am using a valance in front of each light.  A rough landscape consisting mainly of trees is painted on the wall at the back.  This would be easy to replicate in another location I feel.

5. Fascia - Well, you've seen what it looks like.  I will also be providing something for drinks.  Velcro has now been stuck on near the DCC sockets for attaching throttles.  I still need to consider a way of providing desk space for paperwork.  Perhaps clipboards are the answer.

6. Simplicity - I tried to keep the plan simple and there are only 11 switches on this part of the layout.  The sidings are as long as possible though, more space equals better switching.  Fully agree that simple plans are the best.

7. Longevity - This is an important thing with me, this is almost certainly my last layout.  I need to give more thought to this perhaps.  I guess that quality bench work and simple track plans are important to achieve this.  Humidity is less of an issue here where I live and the wood used in the current baseboards is well seasoned.  For new baseboards good timber will be something to look for.

In a reply to your blog Dave Husman says that TOMA modules are just non-standard N Trak modules and I must admit that is how my thinking has gone, although I didn't realise it at the time.  Anyway, lots of food for thought here.

Once again, thanks for the photograph.

Sandy

 

 

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

TOMA as an approach

Sandy - Thanks for checking out my blog. I tend to go off spur lines to explore new roads. I'm back at the layout trying to get everything up to an equal level of being unfinished! A step forward and two steps back. Pretty soon I'll be back to starting over again. 

Regarding shelves and places for drinks, etc. led me to pre-manufactured wall niches. These could pop right into my fascia to provide a waterproof place for "stuff". I may try making one out of 1/8" plywood to see what size works first but can't imagine it needing to be bigger than four inches tall. Maybe even an electrical box might work. Hmmm. 

Neil Erickson, Hawai’i 

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ctxmf74

" I may try making one out of

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" I may try making one out of 1/8" plywood to see what size works first but can't imagine it needing to be bigger than four inches tall. "

   A bottle of Pliny the Elder is about 10 inches tall so I wouldn't go less than that.....DaveB 

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Sandy Saunders

Cup holders

Neil

I once saw these or something similar used as cup holders on a layout.  They would hold a cup or a can of your favourite drink and fold away when not in use. Probably not good for wine glasses though.

Sandy

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Rich_S

Cup Holders

A friend of mine purchased these

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He then cut the top hook off the top and screwed the cup holders to the layout fascia. They are inexpensive and work great.

Cheers,

Rich S.

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