jeffshultz

I model the Willamette & Pacific Railroad (the prototype currently uses the name Portland & Western) in the central Willamette Valley of Oregon. As such, my prototype uses a version of the orange & black paint scheme used by it's parent company, Genesee & Wyoming (GWI).

Now, there aren't many factory painted locomotives in the GWI paint scheme, and none in the WPRR/PNWR variation - which is understandable, since until the past couple years there were no locomotives painted in it that also matched a mass produced plastic model. Mostly the WPRR/PNWR runs GP39-2s, acquired from the Santa Fe. They also now have SD45s, SD7/9's, GP38-2s, an SW1200 and at least a few GP9s, in a variety of paint schemes - including one in a lightly modified SP Black Widow.  Other locomotives have come and gone as well. An interesting modeling challenge.

Since my layout isn't particularly friendly to six-axle units, that simplified my roster - the Geeps were going to be in control. And at just about the time I got back into the hobby and decided upon a prototype, Atlas released it's popular GP38 locomotive in a Buffalo & Pittsburgh paint scheme - nearly dead on enough for the WPRR that I wasn't going to fuss. I may even fix the differences (which consist of a little more black paint on the ends) at some future date. Anyway, I asked my parents for one of them as a birthday present - and later found out my mom went online and bought it that same evening. One down.

I also discovered that MicroScale had produced the exact decal set I needed to produce WPRR logoed locomotives. I collected... a lot of them.

Later, Atlas introduced it's MP15DC model, and one of the paint jobs on the first run was the Genesee & Wyoming RR - in both numbers. Now, these units have never been seen in Oregon, but I considered it a clear gift horse moment. I own both of them now. We're up to three.

A few weeks ago a local modeler admitted that he needed to thin out his collection, and he had three of the BPRR GP38s - he also had some of the Rochester & Southern GP40s, but they're a bit more work to match to the WPRR paint scheme. Blessed with a timely refund from some dental work that was unexpectedly covered by insurance, I snapped up the three GP38s. That's 4 GP38s and 2 MP15DCs in the right paint job now...

This past week I spent several evenings stripping logos (MicroSol and soak) & numbers, decaling, and replacing the decoders (I like the TCS A4X boards) in my three latest acquisitions, as well as stripping the logos and decaling one of the MP15DCs.The original GP38 and MP15DC were converted some time ago. My entire fleet of orange & black locomotives are now in WPRR livery. It may not be the largest fleet of GWI/WPRR locomotives out there - but I haven't seen one larger yet.

So they aren't GP39-2s... it's my layout, and I'd already decided to protolance other elements as well. They look pretty good from my point of view.

Here are a few photos (the rest, including the in-process photos, can be found starting here):

The GP38 herd

 

WPRR #46 & #45. #45 is an Atlas "Gold" model, which means it's equipped with QSI sound (not anymore).

GP38 (standing in for GP39-2) 2301, the City of Sheridan. The silver trucks are done with a product called "Rub N Buff" available at your local craft store (I got my tube at Michaels). Credit goes to an article in Model Railroader about 2-3 years back.

As a final note... no, I didn't attend OSU, nor am I a particular Beavers fan. The colors just worked out that way....

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Jeff Shultz - MRH Technical Assistant
DCC Features Matrix/My blog index
Modeling a fictional GWI shortline combining three separate areas into one freelance-ish railroad.

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KnuT

Orange and Black

Very nice locomotives, Jeff!

I have always liked the G&W Paint scheme. Maybe I could rewrite the Peavine-history a bit and let BNSF spin it off to a G&W owned shortline?

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IronBeltKen

A fine looking herd of

A fine looking herd of horsepower you got there, Jeff!  I've always liked the orange, black, and yellow-trim scheme that all the G&W-owned locos are painted.  I'll be seeing that in my own backyard pretty soon, since G&W acquired an 87% interest in the Maryland Midland .  Kinda sad to think the dark blue/orange livery will be dissappearing soon, but I suppose the sale was necessary to ensure continued rail service to this former Western Maryland territory.

IBKen

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ChrisNH

Nice looking locos! Makes me

Nice looking locos!

Makes me want to think about modeling the St Lawrence & Atlantic in Auburn Maine, something I had toyed with before turning my eyes to Vermont.

http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2007072820441715320.jpg

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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jeffshultz

Chris, I looked long and hard

Chris,

I looked long and hard at the Athearn GP40X in StL&A, but at the time my wife had issued a moratorium on locomotive purchases, so I had to give it a pass. Perhaps sometime in the future.

Those Geep slugs would be easier to model than the former N&W RP-4D slugs that the PNWR uses, fortunately on another section of the railroad that is not modeled on my layout.

 

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Jeff Shultz - MRH Technical Assistant
DCC Features Matrix/My blog index
Modeling a fictional GWI shortline combining three separate areas into one freelance-ish railroad.

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kbkchooch

Amen Ken!

 As a fan of the Maryland Midland (and former dinner train conductor) I'm hoping that the orange and blue will remain for a long time.

At least in model form it will as I have 3 gp9's, 3 gp38's and the 2 f-7's in orange and blue as well as most of the dinner train to keep my memories alive.  I can almost smell the mix of diesel, brake shoes, and chicken wings now!   

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IronBeltKen

Karl, I rode behind those

Karl, I rode behind those ex-Long Island F7's on an EnterTrainment excursion in the Fall of 1989, one of the more memorable train trips I've been on!    I was really bummed-out when I heard they got sold to that filming company. 

I'm hoping that G&W will be true to their word and let M/M continue to do run their own business, serving a broad diversity of customers.  I worry that the Midland guys will be under pressure to drop the smaller businesses [such as that brick factory east of Thurmont] and focus solely on Lehigh Cement and other high-volume shippers.

 

IBKen

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Samart

Looks great Jeff....

This looks great Jeff.

With you modeling the Willamette & Pacific you might be interested in this museum/operating layout in Greeley Colorado.  It isn't open to the public yet, but they will be having an opening Memorial Weekend 09 in conjunction with the NMRA Regional.

http://www.gfsm.org/Index.htm

Keep an eye out for next months MR for some details on it

Craig in Fort Collins, CO

Craig
Modeling the D&RGW in 1949 in HOn3 Scale.
http://www.riogranderr.com

 

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PeterJ

Paint Colors?

 Hello Jeff,

Great models of the W&P .   I am planning on painting some engines for the STL&A and am looking for the paint that most closely matches the original.   Do you have any recommendations??

Thanks, 

Pete

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jeffshultz

Paint colors

Pete,

Not personally, no - all mine are factory painted. I've been told by a local modeler (who paints model locomotives on the side) that Floquil's Reefer Orange is pretty close. As for the black, a nice glossy black should do, as it's a pretty solid black color on the locomotives.

 

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Jeff Shultz - MRH Technical Assistant
DCC Features Matrix/My blog index
Modeling a fictional GWI shortline combining three separate areas into one freelance-ish railroad.

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jeffshultz

Greeley Freight Station Memorial RR

Craig,

You're right, that is one fantastic layout. It's only about twice the size of my house... which had my wife's eyes rolling as I read the spec's out of MR for her.

 

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Jeff Shultz - MRH Technical Assistant
DCC Features Matrix/My blog index
Modeling a fictional GWI shortline combining three separate areas into one freelance-ish railroad.

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shoggoth43

Ok, dumb question

So what are the spotting features of the GP39-2 vs. the GP38-2?

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IronBeltKen

Normal aspiration -vs- turbocharged

The main difference that I'm aware of is: the prime-movers in the GP38 and 38-2 are normally aspirated - i.e., they're not turbocharged.  You can tell this by looking at the two small oval-shaped exhaust stacks on either side of the dynamic brake fan.  [Those are silhouetted on unit# 2301 in the bottom picture in Jeff's initial post.]

OTOH, the GP39 and 39-2 are turbocharged.  So instead of the twin oval stacks, there is a large rectangular exhaust outlet a few feet forward of the DB fan - just like you would see on a GP40 or 40-2.

I'm sure there are many other less-noticeable differences, but that's the "biggie".

IBKen

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jeffshultz

Ken nailed the primary one...

I think that the radiator fans may be slightly further apart on the GP39-2, and the arrangement of hood doors is different, but the turbo stack is really the prime one.

 

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Jeff Shultz - MRH Technical Assistant
DCC Features Matrix/My blog index
Modeling a fictional GWI shortline combining three separate areas into one freelance-ish railroad.

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shoggoth43

Fans and doors

Ok.  I've got a Kato GP35 I need to bash into a 39 and the radiator fan issues mesh pretty well with what I recall.  I missed the turbocharger stuff, but pretty much swap out the fans and I'm set.  I seem to recall the 39 uses a 645 engine so there should be extra doors.  OTOH, if a rivet counter wants to get uppity about it I'll have him build it for me. 

Jeff, the fleets looks NICE.  Great job on it.

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jeffshultz

35 to 39 conversion

Ah... are you trying to make the GP35 into a "factory GP39-2" or one of BN's GP35 to 39-2 (they did it with GP30's too) conversions? In the conversion case, you'll lose the middle 36" fan - I'm not sure what else they did with them visually since they both already had turbo stacks.

The 39 uses a 645 engine, but it only has 12 cylinders vs. the 38 and 40's 16. So that affects door count too.

 

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Jeff Shultz - MRH Technical Assistant
DCC Features Matrix/My blog index
Modeling a fictional GWI shortline combining three separate areas into one freelance-ish railroad.

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shoggoth43

BN 35 to 39 conversion

It's already painted for BN so that saves me a pile of time.  From what I can see on the photos I can't tell if they moved the remaining fans closer together.  On some it looks like they did, but that might just be the angle on the photos.  I can't really see the shop putting all that much effort into it, but I don't really know how badly they were torn apart.  If they had to really gut it they might have put a new plate on it with the fans closer together as a matter of professional pride.  Otherwise they probably just yanked the middle one and plated it over.  I'm not much on staring at the roof of my locos and like to be closer to tracklevel so I don't think I'll notice, or care, either way.  cutting out the middle fan, adding a styrene plate, and painting it black is certainly easier.

As for the door count, I'm keeping the current 35 count.  If anyone really wants to get that picky they can run the yard using the GP-50 dummy units instead of the nice Kato GP39 unit. 

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