Boris

Hi community members,

After 35+ years of armchair modelrailroading I finally have a room, benchwork almost done and a track plan idea. Now it's time to ask if I'm missing or can improve something? I’ll post this on some different fora to see if I get some good feedback.

Scale: HO

Dimensions 2 920 x 2 753 mm (9.58 x 9.03 in) built in sections for future movability. The dimensions are the layout, there is a thin extra space for a backdrop.

Name: Blue Valley & Chattawookie Bridge RR, BV&CB RR

Prototype: freelanced bridge route between two major systems, with a branch line from the summit in Blue Valley ending in the Chattawookie barge harbor at the Lake Chattawookie.

Period: transition era, 1948-1952.

Layout style: walk-in shelf/island layout.

Access via a removable duck-under.

Location: somewhere in Northeast US.

Traffic: due to the steep grades only short trains are run, often with helpers, as bridge traffic. However the branch line feeds a dam building up North the Lake Chattawookie. Anything needed in the dam building is shipped via the barge, or on smaller coastal vessels. 

There are (yet to be defined) industries, but could be lumber, machine parts, and freshwater seafood, etc., that is also shipped out from the stations.

Passenger traffic with doodlebugs and/or short passenger trains for the dam building workers when there is a crew shift.

Different frequencies for different commodities will create an interesting traffic pattern. Any railcar leaving by barge will have to come back by barge.

The track plans shows the visible layout part and the hidden staging/fiddle yard. Photos show the layout room. In the layout plan the areas with a lighter tone are the 0-level, the mid-tones are grades, the darker tone is 55 mm (2.16 in) higher. Staging is a separate track plan. I will try to avoid turnouts over the section divisions. The grades will be adjusted to be as long and easy as possible. I’m well aware that there are tough grades from the staging, so it might not work out as well as I hope. I also try to avoid turnouts over section joints.

I plan to run traffic by train order and timetable, one operator 99 out of 100 times. Flexible fast clock. Laid-back or intensive traffic remains to be figured out.

Qestions, advice, feedback, constructive criticism, etc., is welcome.

 
 

 


 

Link to PDF of layout level:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9833344/BMRR/v1/BMRR%20layout%20level%20v1.pdf

Link to PDF of staging level:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9833344/BMRR/v1/BMRR%20staging%20level%20v1.pdf

 
Link to AnyRail file:

Boris,
Hyssna,
Sweden,

Living in the woods, unfortunately no time for trains.

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Mycroft

hm

 2 turntables in a small layout?  Seems like using a lot of real estate for that?

Remember that when you do an S curve, you need a straight area between the 2.  Said area should be as long as the longest car you intend to un thru there.

Does the car float have anywhere to go to?

James Eager

City of Miami, Panama Limited, and Illinois Central - Mainline of Mid-America

Plant City MRR Club, Home to the Mineral Valley Railroad

NMRA, author, photographer, speaker, scouter (ask about Railroading Merit Badge)

 

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Boris

2 turntables

Yes, two turntables, maybe overdoing it, but I found that doodlebugs cannot run backwards, and also that I could turn helpers.

Yes, S curves, I'm aware of that, but where did you spot them? 40' and 50' cars, maybe longer passenger cars. Thanks for the heads-up.

Boris,
Hyssna,
Sweden,

Living in the woods, unfortunately no time for trains.

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David Husman dave1905

Grades

 As far as I can tell, your grades are going to be very daunting (I would use the term "horrible" but i'm trying to be positive).    It looks like you have an almost 9 in elevation change in about 16 ft, that's over a 4% grade.  With your era you are probably talking about steam.  Sharp curves, steep grades, small steam engines, not the best combination.

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Boris

tough grades

Yes, grades will be tough, but I will give it try. In case it turns out that the grades are too steep for my engines I will have to rethink, but … until then I'll put my head in the sand .

(Steam or diesel, double heading or helper.)

Boris,
Hyssna,
Sweden,

Living in the woods, unfortunately no time for trains.

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ctxmf74

 "two turntables, maybe

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 "two turntables, maybe overdoing it, but I found that doodlebugs cannot run backwards, and also that I could turn helpers."

on small layouts it's handy to use one turntable and yard to represent both ends of the modeled run. A route that goes from a yard, twice around the room,and to the opposite end of the same yard works well. A carfloat operation is also a good way to model interesting operations in a small space.Mark Dance's N scale version would work very well as a stand alone HO layout in a room your size .....DaveB 

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Virginian and Lake Erie

The grade check is likely

The grade check is likely your first failure point on the design. If you use thinner bench work and limit the difference rail head to rail head to 6 inches maximum you can reduce your grade % from approximately 4.5% to just about 3%. Even with that it is steep and you would likely be looking at shays, and saddle tank engines to move very short trains. Early diesels like box cabs were also used in environments such as this.

Two turn tables would also be a large waste of resources for the distances involved. Unless you already have two I would limit it to one on the top level and place the second on the lower level at the Ikea shelves and use it to turn locomotives going up the grades. One thing that might help is the fact that you could use the continuous running feature of the lower level to build up speed and get a run for the hill. If you don't already have the second turntable a wye track could be used to turn locomotives and it could be located on top of the lower level Ikea shelves.

Your era is 1948 to 1950 so small steam or even GP7s or even SD7s or similar diesels could be used GP7s 1949 intro. Also early sw or alco switchers could be used RS1s even early FMs. If diesels are used you only need to run around the train on the lower level and they will pul the grades better than steam engines in model form. Other than the grade check and what might be too many turn tables the layout looks very interesting to me and would likely be a ton of fun for one or two guys.

I suspect your first draft was very close to success.

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Mycroft

s curves

 Near the one turntable, but mostly I see them with crossover switches, where you are going from 1 curve to the other with no straight between.  It might work, but it also might cause derailments.

James Eager

City of Miami, Panama Limited, and Illinois Central - Mainline of Mid-America

Plant City MRR Club, Home to the Mineral Valley Railroad

NMRA, author, photographer, speaker, scouter (ask about Railroading Merit Badge)

 

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