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As we begin the journey toward this August and having the Siskiyou Line on display for the NMRA National Convention in Portland, Oregon, I'm going to start documenting the layout's progress here in my MRH blog.

We're currently working on the upper deck at the opposite end of the room from the entrance - on my layout this is the Sutherlin/Oakland area.

To remind you where this is, here's my upper deck track plan. The area we're working on is on the far left and lower left of this plan (Click the plan to enlarge it).

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joef

Working on the Siskiyou Line again ...

Here's a photo of the Sutherlin area as it looks as of this writing (click to enlarge):

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The area of focus at the moment is on the far left of this photo between Sutherlin and Oakland. On the prototype, there's a short deck girder span across a country road. I'm modeling this span as faithfully as I can. Here's a photo of the prototype bridge:

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My family lived about a quarter mile from this location when I was growing up, so I'm very familiar with this bridge. I would walk down to it often and play near it as a grade school kid or as a young teen.

I've also visited my folks with my family after I got married, and my wife and my kids would often walk down to "the bridge" as a fun outing and I'd talk about my childhood. The family loved those walks, so this particular bridge has a lot of pleasant memories for me.

Notice the prototype bridge has two huge concrete abutments, with one side squared off and the other side with a wing, and each abutment is a mirror image of the other.

This bridge has no bridge shoes, the steel girders just sit straight on the abutment lip.

The country road climbs up a short hill, goes under the girder bridge, and then climbs and curves off to the right to meet another road dropping downgrade in a wye junction behind the abutment on the right.

I intend to model the roads as shown here, and to model the terrain contours as faithfully as I can. Additionally I want to weather the abutment rust flows just as they look on the prototype, and want to add all the small details like the ladder under the bridge leaning up against the abutment on the right side.

Just like the prototype, my bridge is on a curve. The only difference is my curve is opposite to the prototype, but the effect is very similar. Here's a shot of my model of this bridge taken from about the same angle as the prototype bridge in the photo above.

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From this photo you can see how I've tried to model the abutments as accurately as possible. My spline roadbed is quite a bit higher than the point where the road will be when it drops downgrade from the bridge toward the fascia. Here's a shot from farther back so you can see how this area looks from the eye level view of an operator standing in the aisle.

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The road will climb upgrade from the fascia, curve under the bridge, and then just beyond the abutment on the right will meet up with another road curving around to the right beyond the track. I'm going to use green florist's foam to build up the contours in this scene because it will give me a lot of control - more control than cardboard strips and masking tape, which is my usual method (you can see some of that tape and cardboard strips scenery off to the left of the bridge where the slight rise is between the fascia and the track).

As a side note, you can see I built my upper deck benchwork at this end of the room right in front of the windows, and you can see daylight streaming through the holes in the benchwork. Once all the scenery is in and the layout black drop cloths are in place, you'll never see all this daylight.

This is a MicroEngineering 30' deck girder bridge, with abutments scratchbuilt out of 60 thousandth's styrene, and then abused with a file to roughen up the styrene to add weathering and form seams like are visible on the prototype. I added layered shims underneath the bridge using stacked 1x2s and then "micro-shimmed" the abutments to the correct height using different thicknesses of stripwood. I glued all the shims in place using white glue, and then glued the styrene abutments to the shims with flexible super glue.

If you've never heard of flexible super glue, it has some rubbery compounds in it so the joint is flexible instead of brittle like a normal super glue joint is. I love the flexible super glue a lot - you can get it in various thicknesses and for model railroading use, I think the flexibility makes the joints more durable and able to withstand some abuse. I use two thicknesses - here's some links to it on Amazon, the thicker kind, and t he thinner kind.

I also did some special things to get the track alignment I wanted across this bridge and the approaches. Here's a closeup photo from above so you can follow what I'm talking about:

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I removed the flex track over the abutments and bent some code 83 rail to match the exact curve over the bridge, so it flows smoothly into the flex track curves without kinks. I used most of the MicroEngineering plastic bridge ties but I cut off the spike heads with a sharp Xacto knife because they won't work for curved rail, only straight rails. I replaced five of the plastic ties with matching dimension basswood ties so I could spike the rail in place over the bridge.

I take small MicroEngineering spikes and cut off two-thirds of their length using flush cutters. I cut the spikes at an angle, so they still have a point on them and can be pushed into the basswood. Here's a photo of the process:

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That's the progress here so far. It's great to be working on the layout again, and I plan to keep reporting on the progress here in my MRH blog as this scene develops and as the layout gets more done on it as we march toward August!

Joe Fugate​
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rickwade

Joe, it's great to see you sharing your progress!

I've missed you postings and look forward to more!

Rick

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ratled

YES!!!

Joe is back in the train room!!!

Steve

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kleaverjr

Any chance...

will you be working on the Paper Mill scene in Dillard?   You hinted to us in the M-T-V Siskiyou Line video's that by the end of the series that scene would have progress done, but no updates were done.  I am very curious as to what it will look like.

Awesome update!  Looks like my hopes of catching up to you are dashed.  Oh well, just like you I have a deadline for a convention, and though there have been significant setbacks, I think I have been able to recruit a few "elves" (no I didn't kidnap Michaels' elves from FL, though I wish i could cuz they work super fast!) to be ready for the Convention being held here in Buffalo.

Good luck with progress on your layout Joe!

Ken L.
 

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joef

Dillard is next

Once we finish with Sutherlin and Oakland (since it's on the mainline, and it involves mainline trackwork that needs finished, it's first), then next comes building and finishing the Dillard Forest Products complex. It should be awesome when it's done ... I can't wait!

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pldvdk

Looking Forward to the Blog!

Joe,

I've learned a lot from you in various ways since I started reading MRH and following the forum. I look forward to seeing your future progress on the Siskiyou Line. Your working is always outstanding! 

As long as you're starting a layout blog, I hope you won't mind me asking you a question about blogs I've always wondered about. Is it preferable to have one layout blog post and just keep adding new entries to it as things progress? Or is it better to make separate posts at major junctures of progress?

In my opinion some of the layout blogs on MRH get pretty long, and it sometimes takes me a while to find things in them again when I want to go back for reference. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

 

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Steve Watson SteveWatson

I'm not Joe, but.....

....in reply to the previous comment: Put up new blog posts whenever you have something new to say. Just like the rest of the blogging world.

 

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joef

I agree, one topic, one blog entry

I agree with one topic, one blog entry. If you have something new to say, start a new blog entry. To me it's a bit like asking should we put all knowledge in one big book we keep adding to all the time, or is it better to break up the knowledge into separate volumes? There's no question that breaking things up makes it more accessible.

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Virginian and Lake Erie

I think it depends on the

I think it depends on the content, if it is in the form of a diary or journal a long entry allows one to experience the entire journey.

If on the other hand it is dedicated to a specific model, or aspect of railroading like how to articles separate topics are best.

Just my opinions

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Tom Patterson

Inspiration

Joe,

It's great to see you back working on the layout. Your scenery has always been an inspiration to me and it will be great to follow along to see how this area comes together. The weathering on the bridge abutments looks fantastic!

Tom Patterson

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michaelrose55

I've been waiting for you to

I've been waiting for you to show more of your work. I'm still in need of inspiration!

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Michael Tondee

I usually don't like multi deck...

....layouts but your's is one I've always really enjoyed.  The mushroom design and the scenery as well as the focus on the SP makes it a winner for me. If I ever get my dream space, I'll  give serious consideration to a multi deck mushroom design largely because of seeing yours. Otherwise I would completely write off the idea of a traditional multi deck. Good to see you working on things again.

Michael

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joef

I'm not a multideck fan either

I'm not a fan of multideck either, but I'd build another mushroom in a heartbeat. It's been very effective at getting me multideck benchwork that does not LOOK multideck. And it gives me those long vistas along the layout that are unspoiled by two deck competing scenes as seen in a traditions double deck where both decks face the same direction. The mushroom benchwork configuration has been everything I ever hoped it would be.

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Sugar Beet Guy

Blogging Error

 Shouldn't the initial photos go in the first comment?  Now I have to scroll through those every time I want to read about the great progress on the Sis-Q.  I try to do that in my longer blog posts.

The neat track plan belongs in the initial post since it's a joy to behold over and over...

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Eric Warhol ewarhol

Looking Good

Joe-

Love the bridge. Have seen many classic railroad scenes like that through MN. Thanks for the update, will be fun to watch your progress.

Eric Warhol

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joef

Okay, fixed it.

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Shouldn't the initial photos go in the first comment? Now I have to scroll through those every time I want to read about the great progress on the Sis-Q. I try to do that in my longer blog posts.

Yes, it should, and I know better than to post everything in the first post .. it's a Drupalism that the opening post gets repeated across all the thread pages.

So I hijacked Eric's first post and moved it to the end of the thread so far to make room for that correctly done initial post.

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John Colley

Siskiyou progress!

Welcome back, Joe, we have all missed you! your 28 hour day, eight day weeks on the mag have kept you from the forefront of rail modelling fans. However, we love the mag, too, and think you need a clone or two! Keep up the great work! See you in August! always a fan, John Colley, now in Sonoma, CA

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Burlington RR K line

New Siskiyou Video

Siskiyou Line

Joe, will you be doing another video operating session video?  I love the scenery and the realistic operation on your great layout.

Hank

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Burlington RR K line

MRH New Look

Joe:

i,wanted to let you know how much I like the new format and the jump and enlarge features.  Keep up the great work!

 

Hank

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joef

More Siskiyou Line videos ...

As a matter of fact, 2016 is the Siskiyou Line's 25th anniversary. An update on the Siskiyou Line will be the January 2016 MRH cover story, and TrainMasters TV (TMTV) will have a special video celebrating the 25th anniversary. We will also be releasing some new Siskiyou Line DVDs and downloadable videos during 2016. Some of this will be updates to the existing series (the DCC video some segments that are almost totally obsolete now, for example). Then throughout 2016, as we continue to celebrate the Siskiyou Line's 25th anniversary, we expect to do some eBooks as well. So lots on the horizon. With all the work on the layout to prepare it for the NMRA Convention, there will be a lot of new things on the layout to show.

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locojr

Your Layout Open For Viewing

Joe,

Besides NMRA convention tours, will your layout be open for visitors either before, during and/or after the convention?  My wife & I are planning to drive, from Siskiyou county in Northern California, to see just the NMRA Train Show the weekend of 8/29 & 30. If possible, we would like very much to see your layout.

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joef

Layout open on Sat/Sun of convention?

As for my layout being open end up for a private tour Sat Aug 29 or Sun Aug 30, I'm sorry, but that's very unpractical for me. See, I need to be at the National Train Show by 8 am on Saturday, then be there until 6, then attend the Convention Banquet Saturday evening, which starts with the happy hour at 6:30. The Banquet runs until 10pm, typically. Then it's drive 30 miles from the convention hotel to home, plop in bed - and get up on Sunday to repeat the process. The Train Show closes at 5pm and then tear down starts - that will likely finish by 8 or so. Then my team will want to do dinner and reflect on the Convention, so I probably won't get done with dinner by at least 10pm, then the 30 mile drive home again. So unfortunately, Saturday and Sunday of the Train Show, I need to be AT THE SHOW and at the Convention, since as CEO of MRH Media, people will be wanting to talk to me. Friday is similar with the Train Show being all day and the the LDSIG Banquet being Friday evening. The last day I will be able to open up the layout will be Thu evening, August 27th. After that, I'm at the Convention Train Show literally all day. As much as I'd like to make the layout available for a private tour during the Train Show, there's just no way, sorry.

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TimGarland

Siskiyou Line progress photos

Hi Joe,

Is there any chance you could post some more progress photos of your layout? Also, besides getting the layout ready for the convention have you updated any of your rolling stock or motive power? A lot has come out since your original videos including some great looking Athearn Genesis SP cabooses and GP38-2 with Tsunami sound.

Thanks!

Tim Garland

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joef

Progress photos

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Is there any chance you could post some more progress photos of your layout?

Unfortunately, the last very visible progress on the layout was circa 2008 with the end of the Siskiyou Line video series. I started MRH in the summer of 2008, with the first issue of the magazine delivered in Jan 2009.

Once I started MRH, the layout went into "maintenance mode" meaning no new construction to speak of, just keeping things running. I did a few op sessions in 2009 and 2010, but once the magazine went monthly in 2011, I only hosted two more op sessions that year and then by 2012, stopped working on the layout entirely.

From 2009 - 2011, I did nothing new on the layout, so what you saw in volume 5 of the Siskiyou Line series is it - the latest visible layout progress.

That's all changing this summer. I am back working on the layout again in earnest, with a number of new structures and more new scenery work taking place. I'm also working from the "track out" consistent with my quality of run philosophy. This philosophy says that during op sessions, what matters most is what's on and around the track. Consistency of look is more important than details, so applying weathering is more important than applying details.

The "what's close to the track" factor is also why I'm so intent on getting the signals installed - they are right next to the track and they go a long way toward adding that Siskiyou Line railroady feel.

So to summarize, you will see some of this new detail as I add it and post about it in my blog posts - and then we'll be doing a TrainMasters video and eBooks in 2016 to celebrate the layout's 25th anniversary. Expect lots of new stuff to see as 2015 unfolds and we roll into 2016.

Note: By "TrainMasters video" I mean that we will be doing a network-TV quality video for TMTV - and then releasing it on DVD and as downloadable video to own for those who are not part of the TrainMasters TV family. In short we're leveraging TMTV producer Barry Silverthorn's network TV background to put together the best-ever Siskiyou Line video as to production values.

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