tommypelley
I just found the Meridian Southern. Being originally from Meridian I would be interested in obtaining all the info I can about them. I'm normally a freelance guy so I have no idea how to find things like rosters and track diagrams/routing, industries served and such. I would like to see if I could develop this into a workable model layout. All help is appreciated.
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Joe Atkinson IAISfan

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Hi Tommy,

For a smaller railroad such as this, I think the best way to go about modeling them is to just stop by and politely explain your interest and the information you're seeking.  With only 11 employees, I doubt that you'll encounter much resistance as long as you show them you're serious about being safe there, e.g. ask permission before walking around the property, look both ways before crossing tracks on foot or in a vehicle, don't climb on anything, etc.  In many cases, I think the employees of smaller railroads often take pride in hearing of our interest in their employer, and as long as we don't make a nuisance of ourselves, they seem to WANT to help us.  Depending on the people, I've found I can often gather more useful info from unofficial sources such as crews than I can from contacting the railroad's "World Headquarters", but with an operation as small as the MDS, I doubt you'll have much trouble regardless.

When I started researching my prototype, I made a point of stopping by the yard office before every visit to ask if it was okay to take photos.  Not only did the employees seem to appreciate me respecting the railroad's property, but those visits allowed me to get to know many of them (and vice-versa), and led to greater opportunities than I'd ever have had if I just walked on the property and started shooting.

Before you visit, I'd suggest gathering as much information as you can on your own from public property, on-line, etc., so you can ask specific questions in person to fill in the blanks and minimize interrupting their work.  You may be able to come up with a pretty complete track schematic by just following the line, both in person and using Google Earth and Bing Maps.  The MDS roster, according to their web site, consists of 5 B23-7s, and you can find photos of those at http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoList.aspx?id=MDS&mid=14 .  What appears to be at least a partial customer list is at  http://www.meridiansouthern.com/customers.html .  You might also consider contacting the photographers of those rrpicturearchives pics to find other fans who can help you.

I hope that helps.  I'm looking forward to seeing where this leads for you.  I've had a blast modeling a smaller railroad, allowing me opportunities I could never hope for with a class 1, as well as a sense of "ownership" of that prototype much like I used to get from freelancing.

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tommypelley

thanks

If walking the property were only an option. I left Meridian over 20 years ago and except for some personal business 15 years ago I haven't been back. In several of the meridian pics that i was looking at earlier there is a building with a canopy on the back that used to work at years ago before I left to go into the coast guard. That really brought back memories. From what I've been reading about meridian some of the old buildings I remember growing up are no longer there and others have been restored to their former 1920s glory. What I'm thinking of is a selectively compressed meridian yard with tracks heading out to stonewall and quitman. This gives me a reason to include all of the Meridian road names on one layout. NS ,KCS, M&B and MDS. MDS interchanges with KCS and it appears to be planning an interchange with NS as well. I tried sending an email to the MDS contact listed on their site but came back as undeliverable. Have not found contact info for their parent company to see what I can get from them as far as info. The search continues. All of a sudden I see the attraction to prototype modelling.
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tommypelley

found parent contact

As soon as I sent my last entry I looked again and found the parent company contact info. I don't think a modelling subject has had me this excited in years.
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Joe Atkinson IAISfan

Excitement

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If walking the property were only an option.

Sorry Tommy, I should have read your message more carefully.  I thought you were still living in Meridian.  Still, I'd be surprised if you don't make contact with someone at the MDS who'll help you out.

Quote:

All of a sudden I see the attraction to prototype modelling.

...I don't think a modelling subject has had me this excited in years.

That's exactly how I felt about "finding" the IAIS.  There was so much interesting information that seemed to just start falling out of the sky.  Even now, 14 years later, it's still fun to find new tidbits of info that lead me to tweak my layout or operations.

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tommypelley

connections

I have a sister who lives in stonewall and friends who still live in meridian so I may be able to get someone to shoot a bunch of pictures IF I can info about customers locations. Since none of my meridian friends nor my sister are train people.
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Joe Atkinson IAISfan

Google Earth

Sounds like Google Earth is about to become your best friend Tommy.  You should be able to research quite a bit from the comfort of your own PC.

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Graeme Nitz OKGraeme

Just Google

Just Google for info and then Google images and third Google Videos...lots of "Stuff"

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An Aussie living in Owasso OK

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pschmidt700

Graeme

Took a moment, but I cottoned on finally to the pun under your signature. When I saw "10" I was thinking "A" not 2. TOMMY: Sounds like a really exciting idea. Are the GEs ex Southern units, I wonder?
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Virginian and Lake Erie

One other source of

One other source of information might be the local library (meridian). Sometimes there is a section devoted to local history that will cover industries transportation etc.If you would like to see what can be had from good research you might check Eric's blog below, it shows some of the sources he used to gather information for his layout.

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

Follow along with my railroad modeling:
http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/

 

 

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tommypelley

MDS power

Paul The GE units are all listed as ex Conrail units. Being from Meridian I can verify the rich railroad history. When founded it was the junction of 2 roads- Southern and Mobile & Ohio. Over the years M&O turned into GM&O and of course SOU turned into NS. KCS has also served Meridian for years and ICG was there for awhile too. I remember seeing BIG UP engines coming through town one day-wish I had had a camera that day - not sure if it was DD40s or 35s but it was an awesome sight seeing those monsters roll by. The local M&B is now part of Genesee & Wyoming. And Amtrak still rolls the Crescent through twice a day. So today I would be looking at 2 class 1s- NS, KCS, and two short lines- M&B , MDS, and passenger service from Amtrak. Thus my interest in this line. I get a short line which is easier to justify in model length. My favorite class 1 which is NS, color which comes by way of KCS and M&B.passenger service when I want to break away from freight, And a way to have it all on one layout. Now to negotiate for the spare room.
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Joe Atkinson IAISfan

Variety

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I get a short line which is easier to justify in model length. My favorite class 1 which is NS, color which comes by way of KCS and M&B.passenger service when I want to break away from freight, And a way to have it all on one layout.

That sounds like a basis for a great layout Tommy.  Modeling the IAIS, one of the things I've enjoyed the most is the juxtaposition of IAIS's older power against the newest GE and EMD products running on UP trains using trackage rights, and it sounds like you'll be in a very similar position.  It's fun having such a wide variety of subjects to model, and the variety of sounds they create (MLWs and non-turbo EMD 567s and 645s on the IAIS, turbo 645s and 710s, modern GEs, etc. on UP) really help to make operations more interesting.

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pschmidt700

Very cool, Tommy!

I'd gone Googling last night and found photos of Conrail B23-7s in Mississippi, so I figured I'd gotten to the right shortline! Damned Yankee toasters gotta look better in MDS coiors!

Sounds like a great theme for a layout as well.

 

 

 

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Graeme Nitz OKGraeme

The Pun

Glad you got it Paul

 

Not many do!!

Graeme Nitz

An Aussie living in Owasso OK

K NO W Trains

K NO W Fun

 

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numbersmgr

Historical Website

Hi Tommy

If you are new to MRH - welcome.

You have probably already found this website but just in case I'll pass it on:

http://www.msrailroads.com/Mississippi_Railroads.htm

It lists information and pictures on historical and recent railroads that existed in or passed through Mississippi (and Alabama and Louisiana).  I did not see the Meridian Southern listed, but you may be able to get some info on the railroads that led up to it.  From my research, iirc, Meridian was the junction of several railroads.  There are several Meridian and xxx listed.

As a sidenote - I'm originally from Mobile, but now live in southeast Misery ( they misspell it as Missouri ) about 10 hours away, so I understand your predicament.  But my mother was born in Bay St Louis, MS; my son graduated from Ole Miss and my nephew from Miss St.  So I get the attraction.

Happy Modeling 

  

Jim Dixon    MRM 1040

A great pleasure in life is doing what others said you were not capable of doing!   

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Bremner

Graeme

I work on servers. I got it too

am I the only N Scale Pacific Electric Freight modeler in the world?

https://sopacincg.com 

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tommypelley

found it

i wa looking at google maps on my phone and could not tell whose yard was whose in meridian. remember there is 2 class 1s and 2 shortlines. after getting internet at home and looking at google earth i can now clearly see what belongs where. this is getting fun researching prototype lines.

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Fred VanAssen

Binary

I always thought there were 11 types of people in the world; those that understand binary, those that don't and those that did not know it exists!

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Jan

Downloadable USGS Topo maps

The USGS is making scans of their historical topo maps of the US available for downloading at

http://www.usgs.gov/pubprod/

You can use these to track the rxpansion, contraction, and consolidation the towns, railroads and industries in the area.

Jan
 

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Brendan66

Historic aerials

Has topo maps as well and you can compare them over the years or to aerial photos

http://historicaerials.com

 

Brendan

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dkaustin

@ Jan and Brendan

Any idea how far back the Topo Maps and Historic Areials go back in time?

Den

 

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     Dennis Austin located in NW Louisiana


 

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Chooch.42

historicaeriels images

In case someone hasn't looked, it varies by geographic area...some back to the early 1940s (before satellites)...resolutions of photos vary...topos go back further - 1910 around me in PA.  Lotsa FUN and helpful, if not always definitive.   Bob C.

 

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