jappe

Hi al,

first "Happy Thanksgiving" to all... (our turkey's are still save until Christmas,lol)

Ok, today, since it was getting to cold outside waiting on the postman with my Mini Natur order from Germany and with time on my side (went through surgery on my left elbow last friday and home from work for at least another 2 weeks..., but, thank you, feeling better already) I felt it was a good time to do a weathering job on my concrete ramp.

I'll try to explain in a few steps how I do it (it is my way and in no way a general rule). You can use this method also to make concrete roads.

For starters, you don't need alot but wat is important is that you start out with woodland scenics road system top coat, concrete (ST 1454), as a base coat. Paint it on with a brush, don't worry, it takes a few passes, let dry in between the coats (to speed it up, you can use a hairdryer). Once that is done leave for a couple of hours to dry, to be on the safe side.

Weathering time, "yéha",

all you need is 3 oil artist colors and some turpentine (white spirit works also) for this job. Lamp black, raw umber and titanium white. I use oil artist colours from Winsor&Newton (series1), their pigments beeing smaller then the general oil artist brands making them flow better. How I know that? Well, in a former life I was a model figure painter.

Before we can start the weathering we have to brake the base coat's tention. Just damp your brush with some terpentine and go over the all structure. If it looks too wet, just dap it of with a cloth.

Now take some lamp black and raw umber and make a wash together with the turpentine. Just go easy on the raw umber. it should be a 80(lamp black)/20(raw umber), 90(lmap black)/10(raw umber) mix., you should end up with a light to very light tea consistence. Load up your widest brush with the mixture and go over the entire structure. Making sure you let the brush flow over the strutcure instead of kinda like painting your weathering mixture. It takes some practise but at the end you'll get a feel for it. If some spots are to heavy loaded, just take a cloth and dap (never whipe) of the excess. If it looks to faint on parts, just load a little more and go over it again. If you are done with this, let it sit for a couple of minutes so the excess turpentine can evaporate leaving the oil colour behind, don't wait to long since the drying process already starts here. With the same weathering mixture load up a small pointed brush. Now look for cracks in the concete and by just putting the brush in a corner of a crack, the paint will flow into it (capillary action). Weather downstreaks on the structure are done with a small pointed brush, just spot on some colur (the same mixture, now with far less turpentine) and with a wider brush just dragg the paint downwards. Don't worry if you can't get the effect the first time, it is a try and error thing. But with concrete abouth anything goes.

The ramp's tire marks are done with plain lamp black dry brushing. Just load a wide brush with a small amount of paint, now wipe it of on a household paper cloth ( here you have to use household paper clotch. The paper infact drains the oil from the artist oil paint, leaving you with a dryer paint, used as such the drybrush paint won't leave streaks).

The wood beams on the ramp in my case, and here I use titanium white, are done at the end. Just go over them with a wash of the lamp black, raw umber (...have a smoke...) and then "lightly!!!" dry brush the wood. This is a 2 days job. The next day you can come back on the wood with the drybrushing. If you would try to do this in one stroke you'd end up with a grey smear looking on the wood. The longer you wait , the better infact.

That's abouth it, takes longer to type then to do infact.....don't be afraid to experiment.

The ramp itself is a bash from Cornerstone's open-air transloading building kit.

ok, pictures (wish I had a better camera).........hope you like them and thank you for your attention,

The ramp before weathering, with the WS road system concrete top coat...

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The ramp afher the weathering and drybrushing......

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The pictures don't realy do justice to the ramp, but you get the general idea. (going to take some pictures outside when it stops raining, so the details will show up better)

Here are a couple more pictures from on the workbench (under workbench lighting)

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rail side

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done.....

 

 

 

 

Jappe

CEO, U.P.-Willamette Valley Sub aka U.P.-Eureka & Willamette Valley Branch

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jeffshultz

Wow.

You've managed to nail the sort of coloration that I've been dreaming of. Seriously.

 

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Dave K skiloff

I'd say it looks pretty good

Thanks for the detailed "how-to."  Its good to see another method for doing this with great results. 

Dave
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dfandrews

ditto-Wow

Jappe,

That is outstanding.  Thank you so much for the detailed explanation/instructions.  They're going into my how-to files right now.

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Dustin

Love the Weeds!

I really like the weed detail.

Dustin

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BlueHillsCPR

Weeds

I didn't notice the weeds in the first pictures.  I like that little detail too.  Also the cracks and broken areas add to the effect.  Nice job!

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ChrisNH

Nice!

Nice job on that concrete! Looks like the real thing!

Chris

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rfbranch

1st attempt with Jappe's methods

Hi all-

I thought I would share my initial results with Jappe's methods of creating aged, weather concrete.  Sorry for the less than ideal lighting but I was working with limited time (read: this was done during my daughter's nap time) but keep in mind it doesn't look so heavily applied in person.

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In both pictures the paint is still wet so there are not finished results (it will dry lighter, I will try and post some pictures tomorrow as an example).  The visible brush strokes are from the first wash.  I think I applied too much pressure and didn't let the paint do the work for me.  In the little time I've worked with oil washes so far, it seems to me that there is more capillary action than with thinned acrylic or enamel paints. 

My 2nd wash layer was far more successful in creating the proper texture.  That time around, I loaded up my brush but then removed a good amount of the color by touching the brush to a paper towel.  Again, the capillary action will take out the color without my really needing to do anything other than touch the brush to the towel.  The wash is then applied with a simple stippling action (I lightly tapped the tip of the brush against the surface of the concrete ramp) which created a more random color distribution and avoided the streaking pattern of my first layer.

I'm going to let this dry out overnight and won't be able to get back to it until the end of the week, but I did want to say that at least initially this is a pretty simple and very forgiving method of creating a realistic texture.

~rich

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rfbranch

UPDATE ON MY PREVIOUS POST

Hi all-

I went down and checked on progress this morning and it was NOT looking good.  The wash was way too dark and the streaks from my originaly coat were simply too dark.  However, the nice thing about working with oils (and a cold basement) was that I simply had to dampen a rag with a little turpentine and it all wiped off!  

I think the issue is my wash was too strong so tonight (if not tonight, maybe later in the week) I'm going to re-mix it and try it again.  I'll keep my camera handy to get a few more progress shots.  I have another ramp already prepped with the top coat so I will give it another shot. 

~rb

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rickwade

Concrete ramp

Beautiful.....a fantastic job of coloring and weathering!

Rick

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Scarpia

washes

Rich, If I remember correctly from my mini's days, after a "too heavy" wash, a light drybrush on top will lighten in and add depth. Used to do that on purpose a lot, actually.

Wouldn't that work here as well?


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rfbranch

Now you tell me

Hey Scarpia-

You are correct in this case but I'm using this as more of an exercise than work on a finished project.  The  loading dock I'm using is actually from the same transload facility that Jappe uses on his layout but I don't have any plans to use it myself.  Where these extensions are on the stock model I instead plan to install an overhead crane for loading/unloading from frieght cars directly to flatbed trucks parked next to it. 

For me, part of the value of this project is to get a feel of the proper ratios for the wash.  I can see based on the flow characteristics of the oil paint that this could have a lot of different applications.  For that to happen I need to stop fat fingering my mix and get it thinned properly

Thanks for the suggestion however!

~rb

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Norman Wolf ndwolf68

Nicely done!

Finally got to perusing this posting in full.  All I can say is nicely done... very informative AND will be one to keep on the bench when I get to mine.  I originally was going to put the 'wooden' ramp that comes with the Walthers Farm & Implement kit, but I think I'd rather come up with a concrete replacement, closer to what would have been in place during the late 70's.  Thanks!

Norm

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royhoffman

concrete materials

Nice looking concrete!

Jappe's techniques would also work well with foam core. This material makes good concrete because it can be etched easily for cracks, etc. and takes washes nicely. I also suppose oil paints would work as well as acrylics on the foam core.

 

 

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