alphaGT

Recently I installed a new work desk, and found I needed a new magnifier for it. So I went about shopping on the internet for a magnifying lamp of sorts. I used to have one on my workbench where I used to be employed, and it worked very well for surface mount soldering, but I didn’t know much about it, other than what it looked like. So I set out shopping.


I found that each store or seller described their magnifiers in different ways. Some listed their Diopter, others the magnification, and still others the percentage of increase in size. So how do you compare a magnifier with a Diopter of 16 with another that has a power of 3x against another that claims a 100% increase in visual size? Well that got me to doing some research on the internet as well, and I came across several websites that had charts, and formulas that allowed you to convert one to the other, and I found that the charts were very easy to use and most helpful. One aspect of magnification that is particularly important to modeling is the focal length. When you are magnifying with a single lens, the focal length is fairly set, with a little play perhaps but within a range that cannot be changed. So whether you prefer to wear a pair of eyeglass magnifiers, or work with a large magnifier over your bench, focal length becomes very important. As in, the distance the object you are viewing is from the lens.

Here is a chart like the one I found to be so helpful:

Diopter

Focal Length

Power

Increase in Size

3

13"

1.75X

75%

4

10"

2.00X

100%

5

8"

2.25X

125%

7

5.5"

2.75X

175%

8

5"

3.00X

200%

9

4.5"

3.25X

225%

11

3.75"

3.75X

275%

13

3"

4.25X

325%

16

2.5"

5.00X

400%

18

2.25"

5.50X

450%

20

2"

6.00X

500%

 

I originally thought I might like to have something in the 3x to 5x magnification power, but after looking at information on the chart, I saw that a diopter of 16, equal to a magnification of 5x, had a focal length of about 2 to 2.5 inches! Well that might be fine for looking at stamps, or coins, but for working on models, it just would not do. So in order to get my tools in between the lens and my work, I needed a focal length of at least 7 or more inches. So, I came across a nice boom type lighted magnifier with a lens of 5 inches in diameter, and a diopter of 3. So looking that up on the chart, I discovered that it had a magnification of only 1.75x, but a focal length of up to 13 inches! This gave me a percentage of enlargement of only 75%, but I needed the focal length to work under the lens, so I took a chance on it and bought it.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that I had plenty of room to work under the magnifier and never had to move it once I had it set. And because it had the round florescent light around the lens, the work was very well lit, and even though the magnification sounds low, I found the object appeared very large to my eyes, and the smallest details were easy to see and work on.

So depending on what you want to use a magnifier for has a great influence on what power you will need. And seeing that most of us are modelers who want to see the small details on our train cars and structures AND work on them while under magnification, less is more. So if  you are shopping for a magnifier, or are not happy with the magnifiers you have, check out the chart and let it help you decide.

Russell Kingery

Modeling N scale Norfolk Southern and CSX in VA

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JC Shall

Excellent Reference

This is a great reference.  I've been thinking of picking up one of those magnifiers also.

Can someone tell me how I can capture just the chart to my printer.  It would be useful to have in my pocket when I go looking at magnifiers.

-Jack

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alphaGT

Just the chart

Jack,

To get just the chart, cut and paste it into a document. Take your mouse and swipe it over the chart, highlighting it in blue, or whatever color your computer makes it, holding down the left mouse button as you swipe. Then right click on the blue area, and select "copy". Then open an empty document on your computer, in Word or whatever word processor you have, and then over the empty document right click there. A drop down menu should appear, so click Paste, and the chart should appear. Cut and Paste, a great computer tool. This is the method for Windows based computers, for Apple, I don't know the exact steps but it's very similar.

Russell Kingery

Modeling N scale Norfolk Southern and CSX in VA

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JustSteve

Just the chart

You can also select whatever it is you want, select print & check the box for "selection" in the print dialog box.

It'll print only what you selected.

This is also standard windows behavior.

 

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dreesthomas

spreadsheet

I tried (Win7) mouse-over the table with left button down, ctrl-C to copy, and pasted (ctrl-V) into a spreadsheet.  OpenOffice in my case, but should work in Excel.

Lotsa ways to do it!

 

David

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Greg Amer gregamer

Great reference

Thanks for researching. I've been thinking about buying one and had no idea what I should be looking for. I've mainly been comparing mechanical qualities, I've thought about magnification, but hadn't considered focal length. Thanks again this really helps.
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JC Shall

Ahh, Got It

Thanks for the printing tips.  I tried a couple of them just to learn the techniques.  The paste into Word worked the best as it retained the borders of the table.

Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? 

Now, I've got to go searching for magnifiers.

-Jack

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Cascade Bob

Proper Magnification

AlphaGT,

What brand and model magnifier did you purchase?  Where did you get it?

Thanks for this useful info.

Bob

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alphaGT

Thanks Guys

Thank You Jack, Bob, Greg and David. Sorry I didn't sign the blog with my real name, this is my first and I didn't realize my canned signature wouldn't work. So thank you all for making a guy feel good about his first blog!

Bob, the lamp I bought is a Hawkeye brand, model HE-9250G. I bought it off of eBay. Got a great price on it too! If you'd like to know the specifics contact me off line and I'll give you the seller's name and send the same eBay add to you.

Thanks again,

Russell Kingery

Modeling N scale Norfolk Southern and CSX in VA

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Hunter Hughson

buying one soon

I don't have a hobby workbench, but I plan to build one soon.  Magnification is one of the many things I've been considering, and you've done a great service posting this.  

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alphaGT

Something new to add..

I learned something new! I discovered that I can use my regular hand held magnifying glass, or my small stand mounted magnifier, underneath my low powered (1.75x) magnifying lamp. While the zoom I get from the lamp alone works for 90% of everything I've done lately, I found that while soldering some tiny surface mount LEDs about the size of a grain of rice (608's I believe), the extra magnifier allowed a great deal of enlargement without distortion. It was much better than trying to use the tiny soldering stand with a 2 inch magnifying glass on it, by itself. By adjusting the distances between the work and the small glass, and then that glass and the big glass, allowed a lot of adjustment to get it to a size I was comfortable working with. Best view yet I've had of such small work.

So why not just get a magnifier lamp with higher magnification? Well, I thought about that too, and it would just be too powerful for regular work, and also shorten the focal length as was the point of the original blog. While the small 2 inch glass was very close to the work, the big glass in the lamp was still a good 10 inches away from the small glass.

Russell

Russell Kingery

Modeling N scale Norfolk Southern and CSX in VA

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Hobby3

Thanks!

I was looking into magnification for use my small projects. I read your post about focal length and started looking into higher magnification with longer focal length. Has anyone ever tried something like these loupes at http://www.ZoomOptix.com? A bit expensive but you can choose your focal length even for higher magnifications. Any thought or experience with something like this?

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rickwade

I wonder if anyone has

I wonder if anyone has thought about using a video camera that has zoom with a monitor?  I know that many of the video cameras have a great zoom percentage but I don't know about the focal length.  Just a thought. 

Rick

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Ken Biles Greyhart

Magnification Options

Rick, I hadn't thought of using a video camera. I suppose if it was plugged into a decent sized monitor, it would work.

I had also thought about what would happen if you used two magnifying lenses, after all, that's the basis of both the telescope and the microscope.

A cheaper alternative to the link Hobby3 supplied might be these. I haven't tried them, and I suspect they're pretty cheap, but they might be worth a look.

 

 Ken Biles

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MikeM

Binoculars are not loupes.

Aside from the questionable quality of anything this inexpensive (even if seen on TV...), binoculars are not meant to be precise optics for viewing small objects up close with magnification.  They have a focal point tweaked to objects far away, out to infinity.

MikeM

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MikeM

Other magnification tool options

I have a desk magnifier made by Daylight and I love it.  I splurged and got one that lets me swap lenses for a range of magnification.

I also know some folks in the hobby who've chosen to work with certain types of microscopes (particularly if you do a lot of work with surface mount LEDs).  I don't have one but often give serious thought to it.

MikeM

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