JC Shall

It's another week . . . post 'em if you got 'em.

Here are a couple photos of an HO scale car knocker's shack that I built back in the '70s.  RMC had an article for this little structure many years ago, and I used it as the basis for the model, making a few changes with the windows.  I recall that a manufacturer offered a kit for the building years later.

The interior is detailed with shelving and parts.  Then I got the brilliant idea of putting a security screen over the window.  Looks great except now you can't see inside!  At least I know the stuff is secure within. 

The weeds and growth outside were originally a nice green.  I guess the vegetation died from lack of water over the years.

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-Jack

Louisiana Central Railroad

The Louisiana Central Blog

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PRRK4s958

PRR M1a 6707

4_202740.jpg A just delivered from Baldwin's Eddystone plant, PRR M1a 4-8-2, awaits its first break in run and eventual assignment. The PRR didn't venture into colorful steam power paint schemes. They did however, for a short period of time, designate differences between Passenger power and Freight power by the addition of colorful striping. On the PRR the 4-8-2 M1a class were considered dual service. That would later change to freight duty only. When delivered in 1930 the first 10 M1a's (6700-6709) were assigned to passenger service. With the addition of gold leaf lettering and a combination of gold leaf stripes, chocolate stripes and white stripes on the tender and gold leaf lined spokes on its drivers, this no doubt spoke clearly as to its passenger service duty. After its short passenger duty service it would join the ranks of its freight hauling sisters and see service well into the 1950's.

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p51

New cars!

I recently finished these three hoppers, 3D prints from Western Rails.

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James Six

Really nice coal cars

Really nice coal cars Lee. 

Jim

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Modeltruckshop

Nice work as always everyone

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Greg Baker Mountaingoatgreg

Looks like there is a problem...

Appears as though the tie cart has had a bit of an issue. This will really slow down work and not make the dispatcher very happy if they cannot clear the main in a timely manner. 
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This is an HO scale diorama I just finished up with my current layout I am building as a backdrop. 
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ssagrawal

"A new direction"

Wanted to share this with you all:

I am undertaking a layout renovation / expansion, and many of you have provided incredibly helpful input on several questions I've asked the group over the last few months ( To Helper or Not, Short Versus Long Class Tracks, Staging Yard as an A/D yard, Fast Cookie Cutter Cuts).

I have been wanting to share some updates on the construction, and am looking forward to when I can document things nicely. In the meantime, I'm excited to share this milestone. This is at one end of the modeled road, and the tracks now beeline to a new topside staging yard for both ends of the railroad (construction in progress behind the helix), rather than a troublesome hidden staging yard which required backing trains around a reversing loop. 

A new direction:

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A full shot of a very full classification yard (Snohomish Yard). Soon, new staging will give these cars a better place to hang before getting in the action:
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* Jim, thanks for the heads up about the broken links - fixed now.

Siddharth

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jimfitch

broken links on that last

So where does the cork with no track on it go?

I need a helix - how did you build yours?

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Jim Fitch
northern VA

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

My old stomping grounds

I've always enjoyed going through Snohomish and watching trains add and drop helpers there and wind over the mountains. Thanks for the links.

Neil Erickson, Hawai’i 

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sanchomurphy

Kandiyohi, MN - Fall 1970

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railandsail

backing trains down to staging?

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This is at one end of the modeled road, and the tracks now beeline to a new topside staging yard for both ends of the railroad (construction in progress behind the helix), rather than a troublesome hidden staging yard which required backing trains around a reversing loop.

Siddharth

Can you describe these problems in more detail? My helix plans include 2 loops down to a 3-way turnout that distributes the trains to 3 staging areas,...
https://forum.mrhmag.com/post/multiple-staging-areas-access-to-them-perhaps-subloop-in-the-helix-12209513

 

 

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JC Shall

Railfan Auto

Sean, I wish I had that '68 Charger to do railfanning in! 

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ssagrawal

Awesome photos, all! Love

Awesome photos, all! Love seeing all the Great Northern action in particular.

Thanks for the interest, Brian, Jim and Neil! I hope folks don't mind me replying directly here, but I am happy to shift this into another thread if we want to just keep this one for photos.


Brian, my original staging yard schematic looked like this (apologies for the roughness of the drawing):

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The yard was joint for both ends of the railroad, accessed by a common track off the helix. To use the yard, a train goes head-first into the arrival track, and then backs around the reversing loop into a storage track. This looked fine on paper, but didn't work well for two main reasons:

1) The reversing loop: Backing around the reversing loop and into a stall was very prone to derailment, as the slack action on long trains going around 3 S-curves and nearly 360 degrees of arc led to frequent accordions and stringlines ... despite my having laid the track very carefully. When it worked, it took a long time, and it's not very fun to slowly, and with some anxiety, back up your train for so long.

2) Less important: the single common access track for trains into staging sort of harms the illusion of "opposite ends of the railroad". Train crews who shouldn't really be interacting (because they're many miles apart in the real world) needed to coordinate, and frequently so.

The one good decision I made with this design was putting the turnouts along the aisle, rather than deep in the back, even though it cost me some staging track length. Maintenance has been much easier for that fact.

I have an idea for your staging yard which I'll share over in that thread .


Jim, the cork without track provided the original connection from Snohomish down to the joint staging yard (see my previous post for background: mrhmag.com/node/42576#comment-474042). Here's a photo of what got ripped out:

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This diagram below shows what the railroad will look like after the renovation. Before the renovation, the mainline ended at Summit before descending the full helix into joint staging. The extension will add the Tunnel District, Apple Valley, and Great Interior. 

I came up with a way to use the helix to almost double the mainline length, while making it part of the modeled road rather than just a way to get to staging, and I hope to share more about that in the future (it'll be easier to explain after at least the subroadbed is complete ... but if anyone thinks such an idea will be useful for their own design, I'd be happy to try to show it sooner):

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For how I built the helix:

In general, I think there are two choices to be made when building a helix: 1) continuous-laminated vs. cookie-cutter, and 2) threaded-rod vs. wooden-spacer. 

1) I chose the continuous-laminated approach, which uses wood very efficiently. I cut 1/4" plywood sheet into trapezoidal pieces which approximate the curvature of the helix. I created two layers of trapezoidal shapes, staggering one layer by ½ length of a trapezoid, and then laminated the layers together with wood glue and screws to provide a continuous helix (the picture above shows what this ends up looking like). By the way, I’d recommend using ⅜” sheet instead, because the minimum size screw which makes sense for lamination is #4 x ½”, and they’re actually a bit longer than ½”. This approach worked well and saved wood, but was A LOT of effort. If I was doing it over, I’d probably just cut the helix out of ½” or ¾” lumber cookie-cutter style.

2) I used threaded rods to separate the decks, but I think using wood block spacers is also perfectly good. Threaded rods provide a clean look. 8 rods of 5/16" diameter is good enough to hold it up nicely. Some people prefer wood block spacers because they find the rods, nuts and washers are a real pain to install, but I didn't feel that way. I just cut some temporary wooden spacers to separate the levels, slipped the nuts into each level as I dropped the rods in, and then adjusted them one by one.

I don’t remember where I originally got the idea for this overall design, but the helix in this link has a very similar design:

https://siliconvalleylines.com/benchwork/the-helix/

This thread has some good discussion of the tradeoffs between threaded-rod and wooden-spacer: 

https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/3455.

Despite my having done continuous lamination + threaded rods, let me throw in one more reason to go for cookie-cutter-and-wooden-spacer. Once you build a helix for a certain direction of ascent (clockwise vs counterclockwise), it’s rather difficult to flip the direction for a future plan … and the orientation of my helix has constrained a number of future layout design options. However, flipping a cookie cutter with wooden spacers would be substantially easier than flipping a continuous laminated helix with metal rods.

Siddharth

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ctxmf74

@ Siddharth

  It's interesting to read how you made changes as you built and discovered better ways to proceed. I think sometime we get too invested in our designs and fail to change things when they show up so we regret them later...DaveB

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sanchomurphy

Thank you!

You and me both, Jack!

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redP

Railfan auto?

68 Charger?

I dont think I could afford the gas for that thirsty beast

-Scott

 Modeling Penn Central and early Amtrak in the summer of 1972

 

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James Six

I really like your layout

I really like your layout Sean Murphy! Your Farmers Union Elevator is really nice. Show us more when you have time.

Jim Six

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p51

You're in the Army now

Over at B Company of the 796th Railway Operating Battalion, Captain Stuart is micromanaging again, a term that wasn't around but a concept known all too well by soldiers of every era.

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First Sergeant Sayes is going to have a talk with him about this kind of thing after the last formation of the day...

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filip timmerman

Shunting @ Père Albert

Quite busy there...

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Filip

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James Six

Lee, I love your two photos

Lee,

I love your two photos and the modeling they show. Really good and very inspiring.

Jim

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p51

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James Six

Lee,

I love your two photos and the modeling they show. Really good and very inspiring.

Thanks!
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