remhed

I have spent some time over the past couple weeks working on my benchwork. 

There will be a long peninsula wall in the middle of the room.  The layout will be double decked in this area with the lower level track height being 39” and upper level 59”.  In the rest of the room the layout will be one level and track height is going to be probably 48” – 50” (not 100% sure yet). 

If you look at my earlier post about my approach on how to do this, ( https://forum.mrhmag.com/post/ideas-for-peninsula-wall-double-deck-12214693) you’ll see that my intent is to not have the layout go all the way to the ceiling with a bulkhead – I want the area above the top level to be open so you can see across the room if you stand on your tip toes.  For me I think this makes the room feel more open, lighter, and better air movement.  I thought about making the wall out of 2x3’s, but the longest that the home stores have is 8’ and I needed to be able to tie the wall to the celling so I went with a standard 2x4 stud wall. 

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You can see here that the wall is tied to the ceiling every 8' or so.

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For the benchwork, I am using 3/4” plywood ripped to 3” boards built into open grid.  I like this method as the boards do not warp and it is a bit more economical.  My plan is to build the open grid in sections that can be relatively easily taken down if/when I need to do that.  Not modules per se, but close.  So for example, if I have a run that is 24” wide, I’ll build multiple 8’ x 24” boxes that will get bolted together.  I also had planned to use pocket holes to put these together – I like the idea, but in practice it was a bit of a challenge.  The first sheet of plywood I bought was BCX grade, and it had way too many voids and knots in it to make using pocket holes practical.  Actually screwing in from the end into the plys is always a challenge using ply wood, and with that BCX grade it can really be a problem.  So I then got ¾” ACX grade sanded plywood from Menards.  It is much better and if you are patient and a good wood worker you could drill pocket holes and use that method.  I decided it was not worth the hassle for me.  The primary reason I had for using this method is if I had move a stringer to facilitate the placement of a switch machine.  If I find that I have a stringer in the way when I get to that point, there are other methods available to work around that so I’m taking a “I’ll deal with it when/if” I need to.

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That's 3 - 3/4" 4x8 sheets ripped.

Some of the areas of the layout will just be “tabletop” style.  One area I am going to put ½” osb, then 1” foam on top, then cork roadbed.  Some areas will have more cookie cutter style.  For me the down side of cooker cutter is you have to have a pretty good idea of where you want your track placement to be, and once it is cut and laid, if you want to later change it that can be a lot of work.  Alternatively if you just used stacked foam you could move your track around until you settle on what you want then go ahead and carve away to create scenery and variation in hills etc…  I am going to probably use both approaches depending on the area of the layout and what I think makes most sense.  For one big yard I will have, I am putting homasote on the ½” plywood.  I like homasote as it allows you to spike down track and again, you can move it around and let things, particularly turnouts, “float” until they settle after some time.  I know lots of people like to glue their track down immediately and it works for them, but I personally try to avoid doing that.

Here are some areas of benchwork I have put in.

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If you look closely you can see the bolts holding two boxes together.

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To avoid using legs and have the area under the layout as open as possible, I am using angled braces to hold things up.  The boxes themselves are screwed directly to the studs.

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The area you see open between two boxes I built in place as it is an odd shape.  It will also be ~3" lower as there will be a river scene and bridge in that area.

Steve Johnson
Noblesville, In
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Rick Sutton

That really looks great!

Beautiful space and looks like the layout is going to be a winner. I really enjoy seeing layouts in the benchwork stage and get clued in on the thinking process and the actual construction. Leaving the opening at the top of the peninsula wall makes a lot of sense to me. 

Following along.

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TomO

It does look great

I agree with Rick. Great space great framework. You have to have a great foundation for a great project. Looks like you are on the right track!

 

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robert162

Avoid 2x3...

Looks great I am sure you will be happier with 2x4s, I made the mistake of using 2x3s, never again , very hard to get straight ones.   good luck.  robert

 

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ctxmf74

Looks great.

I'm using a very similar benchwork design and have been quite happy with it. Should provide you with many years of railroad building fun( and a bit of drudgery) ......DaveB

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Paul Mac espeelark

Good idea with the "open top"

I like operating on layouts that provide visual blocks so that you can't see across the whole train room - gives you the feeling that you are out somewhere on the RR by yourself. The "open top" however is great for airflow or any conversations you may need to have.

Looks like a winner of a layout - I'll be following along....

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jimfitch

I've seen others do stud

I've seen others do stud walls for layout area's.  Looks good.  Did you use pressure treated wood for the parts on the floor?

Are you putting down something on the floor for the tootsies?

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Jim Fitch
northern VA

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remhed

@Jim re: pressure treated lumber

Hi Jim,

I did not use pressure treated lumber for the bottom plate.  Didn't seem necessary for a wall in the middle of the room that is supporting the layout.  For the actual stud wall around the perimiter of the basement I did.

At some point I will likely put down those foam squares in the aisleways.  But for a while there is going to be too much sawdust and what not so just leaving the floor as is for now.  The floor is sealed FYI.

Steve Johnson
Noblesville, In
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jimfitch

I think thre reason it is

I think thre reason it is required by ordinance for finished basements is there is an assumption that basement floors may get wet sooner or later - and that often seems to be the case.  It certainly happened in my last home, once when the sump failed during a heavy rain storm and again when the water heater failed and it leaked water into about a 1/4 of the basement floor.

I've also heard it said, there are two kinds of basements.  1) basements that have flooded, and 2) basements that have not yet flooded.  Implication is, eventually it may happen.  So best practice is to assume it will and hope it never does.

I think our last basement floor was sealed too, but it wasn't water coming up through the cement that got the floor wet, it was from the perimeter when the french drain backed up when the sump failed, and later when the water heater failed.  For some reason water heaters like to leak water all over the floor when they fail.  In fact that just happened to my boss recently same thing.

As some say, YMMV

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Jim Fitch
northern VA

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