Chris VanderHeide cv_acr

Pulpwood logs are a significant traffic item on the Algoma Central, and a type of load I'll need quite a supply of for my flatcars and gondolas. I've been doing some playing around and simulating with some car cards and waybills and I figure on using anywhere from 15-20 pulpwood loads during a future operating session (when I have a layout to actually operate on some day), and these loads can be moved in at least five different types of cars (52' flatcars, 40' flatcars, 52' gondolas, 61' gondolas, 48' gondolas), so I need a lot of loads and several different types of loads.

While there are some cast resin or plastic loads that you can get to fit certain models, they won't fit some of the customized cars I have, and I've never really seen one made for a standard gondola. Moreover, just nothing looks as good as a load made of real logs.

Fortunately these aren't too complicated to make, collecting real twigs of an appropriate size and cutting them to length. (If you - or a friend - has a bandsaw, cutting a lot of them very quickly is a breeze.) Really the trickiest part is selecting good twigs that are nice and straight so you can actually get a lot of logs out of them without "wasting" most of it.

Pulp logs in northern Ontario are typically cut to ~8' lengths. This is a perfect size for loading crosswise in bulkhead flatcars and gondolas (with usually a 9'-9'6" inside loading width) and purpose-built flatcars (or rebuilt/modified from plain bulkhead flatcars) for pulpwood service with side stakes have the stakes evenly spaced out for logs of this size. Once the "logs" are cut, they're just stacked up on the cars. On the prototype, gravity and the friction of the rough surfaces of the logs is usually enough to keep everything in place (although trains carrying pulpwood loads "without side stakes and chains" are often subjected to speed restrictions and ACR timetables included special footnotes in the Special Instructions section to keep a close watch for shifted or protruding logs en route so it obviously isn't 100% perfect and an obvious reason why the side-stake cars really took over in popularity.) On the model these physics don't quite scale the same way, and we can make it much easier to load and unload the cars by gluing the logs together into a solid load.

To make it a bit easier to work on making some of these loads, I spent a little time in the workshop this week and tossed together some sheet styrene fixtures to the exact loading dimensions of some of my common car types for pulpwood service. This lets me assemble and glue together some loads on the workbench without banging actual cars around and risking damaging their details or getting glue on them. (And white glue peels right off the styrene when dry so a bit of liberal over-use is no bad thing when building in the fixture.)

Next steps: collect and cut a LOT more branches. I have three loads completed and I'm out of logs. I need at least 15-20 more to cover my eventual needs. Maybe more spread out across all the possible car types just so I have enough if the mix of loaded car types changes session to session (e.g more 52' flatcars one session, more 61' gondolas the next).

*Pictures in first post*

Chris van der Heide

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Chris VanderHeide cv_acr

Fixture Photos

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Chris VanderHeide cv_acr

Load photos

Finished flatcar and gondola loads.

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Note the vertical logs in the ends of the mill gon to extend the loading capacity above the sides. This was a common practice for loading pulp logs in regular gondolas.

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splitrock323

Good looking loads and creative jigs

Well done. I used to make loads for my previous layout. I always used weeping willow branches that had fallen off the tree. The dead ones laying in the ground. They were the perfect size for HO and really straight. I made a cutting from an old Athearn box and chopped away for an hour or so. Thanks for sharing. 

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anteaum2666

Great Idea

I love the Jig, Chris.  That's a fantastic idea; one I'll likely borrow when I get to the logging branch on my railroad.  Thanks!!

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RyanAK

Perfect!

I was just thinking about pulpwood, cordwood, and tanbark loads (and stacks) and how to model them. These jigs will be super useful. 

R

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wcrails

Looks good Chris.  I used to

Looks good Chris.  I used to see gons with the vertical log ends on the WC.  They also started welding two steel uprights on the ends of cars.

Pictures on the WC2scale site.

I might as well give up on Photobucket, and start moving pics to my Flickr.

Mike.

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pjc1979

Gluing Process

Chris I enjoyed this post very much! Did you just periodically drizzle white glue on the logs and let gravity do it’s thing while the loads sat in the jigs?

Preston Clark

 

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Chris VanderHeide cv_acr

Glueing

Preston - pretty much. And let it sit for a while to set.

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Chris VanderHeide cv_acr

Log Loading Spurs and Equipment

Some views of pulpwood loading spurs from a new post on my blog. These are pretty much the simplest "industries" to model, just an open area with piles of logs.

Log Loading Spurs and Equipment

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dssa1051

Bark Debris and Mud

Seems like all log loading and pulpwood loading areas are a collection of bark debris and mud.  Save your tea bags since the contents make for great bark debris after they have dried.  In the north country a lot of pulpwood is cut and stacked during the winter so the area is really muddy and full of ruts when the cars are loaded.

Robert

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arkyflyer

Weight of Loads?

Great idea! Both the loads, the jigs and the simplicity! 

Seems these "log" loads could get rather heavy, especially if the "trees" are harvested in warmer seasons when the sat is still in them. Do you have any data on how much these loads weigh (product only or loaded car)? I think these types of cars are often too light compared to standards, so this may not be a problem. On the other hand, the jig could include a central 'box' so short (2 scale foot?) pieces would make up the majority of the load. Over thinking?! 

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Modeltruckshop

Great idea

Those look great and the jig for it is perfect idea to mass produce those. 

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Kenny D

I don't even bother with a

I don't even bother with a jig... I just put a piece of plastic saran wrap in the bulkhead car and pile the logs in, glueing every layer with white glue. 

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Chris VanderHeide cv_acr

Weight

Sorry, I missed this question before.

I put my 52' flatcar load on my digital scale and it came out to 3oz. May depend on the particular "logs" used and relative density of the wood.

regarding water/sap weight - definitely dry the wood, don't want the load to majorly shrink over the years as it dries out naturally.

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David Husman dave1905

E Texas

In E Texas the pulpwood cars had a deck with an "trough", an inward cant, and they loaded two side be side stacks of 4-5 ft long logs.  The trough caused the stacks to "lean in", theoretically to make them less likely to fall off the cars.

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ACR_Forever

Instead of glue,

I used brown acrylic caulk.  Used sparingly, it's pretty much invisible.  I bake (throw them on a cookie sheet in the BBQ) my 'logs' to pre-shrink them, as the first couple of loads I did were 'green', and shrank about a quarter inch after assembly.  Had to attach a few more logs on the end to make the load fit the car again.

Blair

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