Goose in The Caboose Productions

With the impending move coming up, I've made the observation that most bedrooms are 10X10 or smaller. So after numerous tries, this is what I've come up with for an 8X10.

Before you look at it, here are the biggest mistakes I've made with this layout.

(1) Inadequate isle width. Not much I can do about this one without making the other mistakes again. All isles are 16" wide. Not enough to put the layout on the operating circuit, but wide enough that I could have two or three people over.

(2) Not enough workbench space or a good spot for programming track and computer with JMRI. This one's been fixed by making the whole wall work area. The track height will be at the top of the sears tool chest with my workbench surface sitting 4" above that. Blow is where I'll put the air compressor and a couple of cabinet lowers for bulkier tools. the rest will probably be empty space or indented shelving so I don't bang my feet. Cabinet uppers will be mounted above the workbench off of the benchwork supports. The computer has its own spot on the other side of the room.

(3) Too much layout for the aisle width. This been solved by eliminating any extra decks. Not that I coule do it in this small a space anyways.

(4) A really bad job with table joints. This one's been partially fixed with the installation of some HO Gapmasters. The rest of it will be fixed when I have the sections apart and can router out the room to adhere a piece of hardboard carved to match the cross-section profile

(5) Horrible wire organization. I already started addressing this before I knew we were moving. All the sub busses are at the front edge of the layout so there isn't as much moving stuff to find a short. All new sections will have the fascia mounted on hinges and magnetic cabinet latches to hold it closed with the wiring nestled in the resulting trough. If I need to get to the wiring, flip it down, fix it, and close it back up. Not to mention LABELS, LABELS, LABELS!!!!!!!

 

Things I did right on this layout.

(1) Adequate staging. Repeated on this version by having staging cover one wall and sit underneath the workbench. I will probably end up using a compound ladder for staging once I get to it.

(2) Digitrax DCC with radio cabs for mainline crews and a tethered throttle for the yard guys. used a Zepher on this layout, may or may not upgrade to an Evolution system. Probably will, the Zephyr's roster list fills up way to fast.

(3) Trackwork to support operations for my prototype

(4) Room for engine terminal. This layout would have had room for a 90' turntable, 3-stall roundhouse, and a small steam/diesel service are. I'll have the service area on this one and the wye for turning locomotive around so I don't have to touch them. A reasonable compromise I reckon

 

Anyways, I still have a while yet, so the next goal is to start sorting through and getting rid of enough stuff to where all the tubs and boxes fit under the 4X8. Comment below and let me know what you think. Image attached.

 

 

 

 

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Goose in The Caboose Productions  -  Railroad and Model train fanatic, superhero fan, and lover of historically accurate and well-executed sword fights.

Long live railroading and big steam!! And above all, stay train-crazy!!!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTkT-p0JdEuaMcMD10a72bg

 

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David Husman dave1905

Around the room

An around the room layout would be better than the 4x8 island and accomplish your goals.

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ctxmf74

"An around the room layout

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"An around the room layout would be better than the 4x8 island and accomplish your goals."

   I agree. A typical extra bedroom is plenty big enough for a nice around the room layout. I've even had an O scale layout in my 9.5 by 15 foot room. If you keep your benchwork around 18 inches wide or less you'll still have a nice size center of the room space.Around the walls gives the longest possible run and more length for sidings and spurs.The only way I'd go with a central island type design is if I was modeling a busy city scene where I needed to crowd lots of track into a small space to capture the feel, otherwise I'd spread it out and string the scenes along the walls....DaveB

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nursemedic97

Scott Perry’s HOG/Better Beginners Layout

In that space, I’d take a hard look at the Heart of Georgia layout by Scott Perry. Fits that space nicely, uber-expandable, and uses only slightly more lumber than a 4x8 but gives longer runs and broader curves. 

Mike in CO

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Jackh

Swap things around

Yup run the layout around the walls.

How high up is your layout?

The work bench over the top of your staging yard seems to put your yard way to low or you plan on sitting on a high stool or standing at your work bench?

Staging yard can go along one wall with low scenery in front of it. Make the yard seem like a freight yard so it is part of the layout not separate

Putting the layout up higher will give you all kinds of storage space under it.

Having dealt with 16 inch isles on a much earlier layout, they get old really fast even if you are on the thin side.

You don't show the entry door or a closet. The entry door is easy to work with by putting in a swing bridge using a standard door hinge.

Jack

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Goose in The Caboose Productions

Something like this then?

 

 

So, something like this then? Forgot to mark it on there but the backdrop would curve around behind the roundhouse and then the left side of the peninsula. Give me a place to hang clipboards with the switch lists and minimize the number of people in that walkway to just those that need to be in Logan. Workbench would be built underneath peninsula from where it says 'computer' over to the tool chest. Room access would be via a swing-gate on the bottom-right corner.

 

 

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Goose in The Caboose Productions  -  Railroad and Model train fanatic, superhero fan, and lover of historically accurate and well-executed sword fights.

Long live railroading and big steam!! And above all, stay train-crazy!!!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTkT-p0JdEuaMcMD10a72bg

 

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Lancaster Central RR

Your isles are still narrow and you have very little space

for scenery. I would make the peninsula narrow and probably hinged to drop down out of the way if you really want to keep it.

Your engine service area / turntable takes up a huge amount of space and that yard is pretty short. 

Your yard layout is correct design wise for constant switching action. 

I try to balance yard capacity with industry siding capacity. 

You only have one industry to switch. 

The other catch with building this type of layout is that rooms are not standard sized. You will have to make a system to allow for 2 or 4 filler pieces to expand to the exact space. 

I went old school and built my layout based on a 5’ x 6.5’ section because I wanted it to be movable. Then I put it in the bedroom and realized that it only fits in the room one way. It works. But I have a narrow squeeze between 24” wide isles. Thankfully having a 60” layout high works in my favor because I couldn’t fit through the narrow part at waist high. Having another fat guy in the same isle would be uncomfortably tight. The reality of this size room is that you either cram in track or you leave enough people space for comfort, you can’t do both. 

Lancaster Central Railroad &

Philadelphia & Baltimore Central RR &

Lancaster, Oxford & Southern Transportation Co. 

Shawn H. , modeling 1980 in Lancaster county, PA - alternative history of local  railroads. 

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Goose in The Caboose Productions

This better?

 

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Goose in The Caboose Productions  -  Railroad and Model train fanatic, superhero fan, and lover of historically accurate and well-executed sword fights.

Long live railroading and big steam!! And above all, stay train-crazy!!!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTkT-p0JdEuaMcMD10a72bg

 

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