The Peco looks and handles the best, hands down.
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Rail height in side view is the main thing I notice in person or photos so the rail being a bit more wide doesn't bother me much.
Sure, when viewed from the side, true enough. But we tend to view our trains more often from above because track height on most layouts is not at eye level. Heck, it would have to be around 66 inches above the floor to view trains and track from side on. I'd hazard that most layouts are closer to 50 inches, give or take, so the wideness of the Atlas code 83 rail is very apparent. When the rail head width is closer to scale, it looks better and the model trains look more massive in relation.
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Jim:
I have both smidge of Atlas 83 flex and a lot of Peco "Steamline" 83 flex. The Peco looks and handles the best, hands down.
As for switches, the Peco Streamlines are great. Love the built-in "Finger Flickin' Good" snap over point design.
Having sounded like I just gave a sales pitch for Peco, I will say also that I will be using three Atlas code 83 Custom-Line "wye" switches to create a very compact wye for an upcoming layout concept I'm designing.
However, I've done this model railroading thing for over 50 years with hundreds of feet of hand laying experience, so I don't foresee an issue in matching/smoothing up the joints.
Andre
Andre,
I haven't handled the Peco code 83 flex yet. How easy is it to bend and shape? I have some Walthers/Shinohara code 70 flex and it is very stiff and requires a lot of massaging to get shaped and get the ties lined up and looking right. The one thing I have liked about the Atlas code 83 is it is very easy to shape whether straight or a nice flowing curve.
I do feel Walther turnouts, with their use of stock rail for the points, looks more realistic than Peco, so Walthers has the edge in appearance, but being it is no longer made, and Peco has the built in spring, they are getting my business.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. OTOH, I saved all of my track from my previous layout, but I have decided to make some changes for upgrades and improvements as my budget isn't as tight as it was last time around. Toward that end I've already sold off all my Atlas code 100 turnouts and most of my Walthers and Shinohara DC style turnouts (code 100 and code 83). That leaves me with all my Atlas code 83 and code 100 flex track still.
The old code 100 turnouts used in staging have been replaced with Peco large streamline turnouts and I've been slowly stockpiling Peco code 83 turnouts for the visible part of the layout. I still have all my Atlas code 83 turnouts - quite a few, which I may still used in some industrial area's if I end up needing them and don't have enough Peco.
The finger flickin good feature is nice as it there is no need to install any separate ground throws such as Caboose Industries ground throws etc. I have some of them but find them a little awkward to throw - you have to get your finger underneath to pull them up and flip them around. With the Peco, throwing is much easier and less awkward.
You mentioned using Atlas wye - Peco makes wye's too. Why did you choose Atlas over Peco for the wye? Or did Peco not make the right geometry wye for the application? Walthers makes several different wye's as well.
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if you are building a good size layout using commercial track, mixing manufactures is going to be pretty much unavoidable unless you are willing to make compromises to your track plan to avoid it. (which, IMO you probably shouldn't do)
I agree, especially since Walthers Shinohara line of track, with it's great variety, can really allow flexibility of track design and geometry.
It's too bad that the old variety has been discontinued and the new Walthers track will be limited to a much smaller type so that flexibility will be harder to come by unless you can find old stock or get particular turnouts on Ebay.
Originally I was using mostly Atlas track but I had to add Walthers for their specialty turnouts, such as the #8 curved which helped me cram more capacity into sidings or yards. I also used #6 3-way and #6 double slip on my last layout. So did have a mix of Atlas, Walthers, Shinohara and a few Peco on the last layout - no issues as I matched the rail up where connecting different brands or codes.
Since the new layout is planned to be DCC, I've sold off most of the Walthers DC type turnouts rather than have to do a lot of mods to them to make them DCC friendly. I did manage to find on Ebay a couple of DCC friendly #8 curved for the new layout several months ago; they seem to be getting hard to find now and price going up accordingly. I have some PECO curved as well. I'll use what fits best for the application.