Ivan I

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Recently, a friend from the PSMRRC club asked me if I wanted to add some lights to his BLI Trackmobile. I enjoy doing unusual installations (relative to the standard locomotive headlight/ditchlight install) so I took him up on the project. Granted, this wasn't as much a departure from the norm as some of my other builds, but I thought it might be interesting to do a short photo documentation to show the process. I also just wanted to test out a new macro lens - I apologize in advance as some of the shots might not be as clear as they should be. Now, without further ado, let's begin!

The photos of the process are in the next post.

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Ivan I

Photos of the process

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First I disassembled the model. It is very well made and comes apart easily. Everything is screwed on and has locating pins to keep the number of screws low. After everything was apart, I drilled holes for the LED wires. The plan was to have two amber strobes on the roof, and 4 white lights - two up front and two in the back.

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There are certainly more lights on the prototype, but if you look at videos on youtube, the 6 lights I was installing were the prominent ones. I think sometimes we fall victim to the notion that we should be reproducing all of the details we see on the real thing, and in the end, the model starts resembling a christmas tree and the overall "feel" that we are trying to emulate is lost.

When soldering LEDs, I like to test them to make sure they actually work, and to refresh my memory as to which side is positive and negative. Every now and then I have gotten a defective LED from Chinese sellers, but the price per LED is still worth it in my opinion. 

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My testing setup is pretty simple. I reconfigured a set of tweezers (read: sawed in half) and attached leads with banana plugs on the ends. I made sure both sides of the stainless steel tweezers were isolated, and added a piece of black heat shrink tubing to help me identify which side was negative. Then I plugged them into my trusty Lambda power supply - I highly recommend one, and they can be picked up for cheap on ebay or in surplus stores. It's important to keep in mind the forward voltage of the LEDs when testing them (or you can also run the power supply in current limiting mode)

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Soldering the enameled wire to the LED can be tricky at first, but with practice it isn't difficult to get good results. I might have used a tad too much rosin flux on this one, but it's a good joint nevertheless. If I don't have my go-to setup of a "third hand" clamp with self locking tweezers, I use blue tape to stick hold the led in place while I solder the leads to the chip. 

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A quick test reveals that the leads are properly attached and the LED lights up. Then I installed them on the roof of the trackmobile with a dab of CA, making sure the exposed leads weren't shorting out on the bare metal body of the roof. The loose wires were routed along the outside of the window glass and secured it with more CA. This strain relief is important when the model is being assembled and disassembled for maintenance.

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The white headlights proved to be a bit more of a task to install. They were just a fraction of a millimeter too long, so the tabs had to be carefully filed down for the LED to fit into its recess. There is no good way of doing this - I held the LED down on the blue tape with my fingernail and carefully brushed it with a miniature file. Going too far would sever the connection between the top and bottom of the pad and render the LED useless.

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Having finished all 4 LEDs, I breathed a sigh of relief and went back to the easy (sort of) part of installing them in the frame.

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After installing them, I tested the lights one more time - it's easy to break the soldering joints, or the magnet wire when installing them into tight spaces. 

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All finished, looking promising if I may say so myself. Each of the lead wires was glued to the frame next to where the LED was mounted to keep them from breaking.

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Every LED needs a resistor to limit the current it can draw from the decoder. I like to make "resistor boards" to keep all of the components in a single, central location. This makes it a lot easier to troubleshoot any issues that may crop up, and keeps a lot of small components attached to a sturdy PCB. I like to use the scraps from the PC ties I use for my handlaid track. I used two large 2.2K resistors for the amber LEDs and four 1K resistors for the white lights. 

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Making the PC board is fairly simple - I use a dremel with a ceramic cutoff wheel to cut slots to isolate the resistors from each other. One side is a continuous strip, where I will later solder on the blue common positive wire from the decoder. The other side is where I solder the leads for the LEDs.

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First I tin the pads with solder, then add in the resistors between the two sides and make sure the solder bridges the gap. Notice how tiny the 1K resistors are - If I were to do this again, I would probably use one size larger, just for the ease of soldering.

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Next I installed the resistor board to the underside of the trackmobile frame, and wired in all of the positive leads from the LEDs. Once again, CA was used to fix the wires in place in certain locations.

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With that, the LED work was nearly finished and it was time to work on the decoder replacement. The stock model didn't have any lighting options (I stand corrected, apparently there are a few pads for headlights, but not strobes), so I had to replace it with a Digitrax DZ143. The installation was a direct drop in.

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I reassembled the vehicle, routing the lighting wires outside the lower chassis and to the underside of the frame. Then I soldered the connections - headlights to one wire, rear lights to another, and the strobes to their own separate wires. I coated the bare soldering joints with some nail polish - that stuff works very well to insulate the joints and dries quickly. Plus, it's cheaper than liquid electrical tape.

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With everything assembled, I programmed the decoder using JMRI Decoder Pro 3 and set the two amber LEDs on the roof to be alternating single strobes. They can be toggled on and off using function 1. With that ended my lighting installation, and I enjoyed running the little guy on my test track. I'm pretty happy with the installation and I think the lighting effects make it a more dynamic model.

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Thanks for taking the time to read my blog! I appreciate the feedback and comments I've been getting on my posts  - hopefully I'll have time to continue providing interesting content for you!

 

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MikeC in Qld

Wow!     That has made it a

Wow!     That has made it a far more desirable model. Mine runs worse than badly, but if it looked like that I'd certainly make more use of it.  Great job!

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Logger01

Great Work

Great work including the description, photos and video.

Ken K

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Geoff Bunza geoffb

Very nicely done

Well executed and neatly placed wiring and resistor board. Great job with the write up.

Have fun! 

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clarssen

led

very nice work and explanation to go with it I was just wondering what size of led did you use .

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Ivan I

Re: LED Size

clarssen,

I use 0805 LEDs. I get them from here:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/190704673245?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=490085020236&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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flashwave

Man, I wish mine had come out as well...

I tried doing mine, I used bulbs cause of availaability, and webt after forward and reverse lights instead of the beacons. But by the time I got most of it threaded, I was running out of room to pull wires through, and could never get a strtaight answerr on what to attach wires to, and back then, I was less enthusiastic about putting a new board on it so I never finished it. 

Morgan Davis
Webmaster Naptown & White River Model RR Club, Indianapolis, IN
http://www.naptownrr.org
http://www.facebook.com/naptownrr

Thinks he wants to model the 5.89% Madison Hill in HO scale whenever he gets a layout building with living quarters attached. 
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rickwade

Sweet!

Super installation and how to!  Well done!

Rick

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trains577

Earier way

I have been soldering wires to SMD LED for over three years now and I have found that using a OHMs meter and taking the lead to both sides of the LED to find which side is positive and if you look at the bottom of the SMD LED you will see like in your picture the green triangle the flat part is Positive and the pointed part is Negative great work and I hope that this has helped you or someone else when it comes to soldering SMD LEDs 

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trains577

LEDS

Why didn't you use 0603 that way you wouldn't need to file off anything on the LED, I make up 0603 and 0402 all the time once you get to doing them it is easy, you will burn some out at first and later, but that will happen to anyone, just remember to keep the wattage on the soldering iron to about 12 watts or lower, that will keep you from burning out a LED, I found out the hard way when it comes to wiring up a SMD LED

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ras1

OEM decoder

The OEM decoder has lighting circuits. I emailed TCS, the manufacturers, and the sent a photo with the pads marked. I only did the beacons. Also loosened the suspension for better rail contact.

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Prof_Klyzlr

Loosened suspension?

Dear ??? (Ras),

Um, how did you "loosen the suspension"? Intriguied...

Happy Modelling,
Aim to Improve,
Prof Klyzlr

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Ivan I

Re: OEM Decoder

ras1,

I don't think this particular model has any suspension... the bushings are fixed to the bottom frame (a simple box). Perhaps I'm missing something.

Here are the front and back of the OEM decoder - unless you mean the pads from the main IC, I don't see any others that could serve as LED outputs. Any chance you could share your findings with us?

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flashwave

The instructions...

It's listed in the manual or an old description on the website that the models do support user-added lighting, so unless the instructions lie (surely not... ) there;s gotta be something SOMEWHERE

 

Morgan Davis
Webmaster Naptown & White River Model RR Club, Indianapolis, IN
http://www.naptownrr.org
http://www.facebook.com/naptownrr

Thinks he wants to model the 5.89% Madison Hill in HO scale whenever he gets a layout building with living quarters attached. 
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Prof_Klyzlr

Real World Information Air-Gap

Dear Morgan,

I take the point that this doc from the BLI site mentions
"...All three function outputs have lighting effects generators ..."

http://www.broadway-limited.com/support/HiRail%20NCE%20Decoder%20Manual%20(2012).pdf

However, without a clear diagram as to exactly where the solder pads to access the Function Outputs and Function Common are, I can't help but feel in Real World terms that it's case of "Pics, or it didn't happen"...

Happy Modelling,
Aim to Improve,
Prof Klyzlr

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Dannyboy's Pub

LEDS

Now you've done it....I guess I'll have to upgrade my little guy as well. Thanks for the step-by-step!

Dan

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Dannyboy's Pub

From NCE

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It's always a great day at Dannyboy's Pub. Great Music, Fine Beverages, and home of the Michiana Southern Railroad.

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Paul.Chana

Lovely work!

Great looking model, looks really cool all lit up. 

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Logger01

NCE N12SRP-discontinued

A picture is worth a thousand bad diagrams:

https://ncedcc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201306175-N12SRP-discontinued

The blue (positive function supply) wire is actually soldered to the lower terminal of the brown capacitor at the bottom center of the board.

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Ken K

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Ivan I

Re: Decoder Pads

Thanks Ken!

Looks like there are only 2 lighting outputs - front and rears. I guess it's a good start if you're willing to sacrifice the strobes (or you could wire in a 555 timer circuit in there if you've got the time). 

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mbursztein

Good tips

Excellent work and thank you for the tips on using SMD resistors and nail polish.

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railandsail

Wish List

I'd like to have one of these some day,....likely look for a great deal or estate sale.
I could use it in my cryogenic & helium plant area.

And I would like to have it light up like yours....great job!

 

 

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railandsail

OEM decoder

Quote:

The OEM decoder has lighting circuits. I emailed TCS, the manufacturers

So the original DCC decoder provided for in this BLI loco is a TCS one?

Knowing that TCS is pretty well known for their keep alives, does this model have KA??

 

 

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TomO

decoder

Go to BLI website and no Keep Alives  mentioned

Tom

 

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