rtalukdar

A move this summer effectively halted work on my recreation of CN's Waterloo spur running between Kitchener and Elmira, ON.  Since the basement in our new home would require some finishing, I started thinking about building an Inglenook switching layout to practice techniques and to hopefully retain the interest of my eldest son.  Somehow he doesn't understand how it can take months/years to build a layout.  Go figure.

In casting about for prototype inspiration I came back across Trevor Marshall's insightful Achievable Layouts blog, and the CN Pine Street spur in Thorold, ON caught my eye.  I realized that I could build the mill complex in full length in an 18" wide x 12' plus switching lead/staging length.  The fact that my son played baseball just blocks away and I could easily investigate the location and take pictures and measurements of the existing buildings sealed the deal. 

Taking inspiration from some British websites as well as the NC Sipping & Switching Society's waffle module construction, I build three very lightweight 18" x 4' modules using 1/4" luaun plywood topped with 2" foam.  The modules are aligned with the S&S Society's 1" aluminium tube concept.  Rather than handlaying track, I opted for 4 Peco #8 code 83 turnouts due to their availability and the handy over-centre spring which will dispense for any need for switch machines or ground throws, paired with Micro Engineering flex track.

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I had a target of bringing the layout to a local trains show in early November, so to keep construction moving I printed out the Google maps covering the mill, sized to HO scale and cropped to 18" x 12', and laid them on top of the foam.  This allowed me to lay the trackwork and buildings out with no guesswork.  Here we see it on our kitchen floor:

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The ground dimensions of each of the buildings were then cut to size from Gator Board and glued to the foam at the appropriate elevations.  In tandem with photos on the fascia, I find it really helps me visualize the elements of the scene and works as a bridge to when I will have time to mock up some 3D buildings.

I also chose to dispense with conventional wiring on this layout and purchased a Tam Valley's DRS1 receiver and transmitter pair.  For the sake of simplicity I installed the receiver, LiPo battery, and a SoundTraxx Sound Car decoder and speaker in a 50' boxcar with a jumper to allow operation with any of my diesels.  All I have to do to make any engine in my fleet compatible is remove the truck pickup wires and replace them with a jumper that exits the endplate beside the coupler. 

Going forward my plan is to remove the can motor and weights from a diesel that I figure I'll use most, for example a CN GP9-RM that gets used everywhere, and use that space to hold the battery and receiver while maintaining a DCC sound decoder and speaker.  In this way I can pair it with multiple engines for variety and no one will be the wiser that the engine is not pulling, because it will still sound like it is.

There's nothing like a deadline to keep one working, and I managed to get enough done to take the layout to the Ancaster train show in early November.  It set up extremely quickly, and trains were running through my laptop/Sprog/WiThrottle in no time. 

The biggest attention-getter by far was the battery power, due to its novelty.  The 800 mAh battery I used was good for about 3 hours of switching before being swapped out for a charge.

There was also interest regarding the modular benchwork, both in terms of the narrowness (18" does not sound like a lot of real estate, but it offers plenty of room for both track and scenery), as well as the trackwork across the joints.  I used butt joints, and was brave (foolish?) enough to place a switch over a joint, with no issues experienced during the day's operation.

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The modules are now in my basement awaiting the roads and ballast being added as the next step.  I'm also going to try my hand at using photos on Gatorboard for the buildings.  Stay tuned.

Robin Talukdar

waterloospur.blogspot.ca

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Brad Ketchen OSCR

Very complex.. but Wow!

Very interesting Robin. Right from your scaled Google maps (were they printed on 8 1/2 x 11 sheets and matched up?), your bench work to your Tam Valley's DRS1 Receiver and Transmitter. I have dreamed about battery operation, and upon getting back into the hobby after a 25 Year hiatus I was surprised that we still relied on track current for power. Your methods of modeling definitely point to the future of the hobby. I like the prototype you are modeling too. Very nice.

cheers, Brad

 

Ontario South Central Railway, Toronto, Canada. 

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rtalukdar

Complex? Maybe. Enjoyable? Yes.

Hi Brad,

If you're referring to the benchwork, it may look complex, but the modules have been a lot of fun to build.  I think the design matches my personality; I'm an engineer and I like to be very precise.  I wanted a lightweight yet rigid base, and it turns out that I didn't have to pay very special attention to setting up the modules to be straight and level at the show, everything ran perfectly because the modules were rigid and the interfaces aligned.

Once I worked out the first module construction method the others were just quick copy-cats.  The rest of the techniques in my mind actually simplify the layout-building process: flextrack instead of handlaid, and no layout wiring.  Figuring out the battery operation, or rather the best way to fit everything into the boxcar/diesels, was an enjoyable process, even if it did take me into a few late nights.  

Believe me, the inner geek in my wants to do everything to the nth degree of detail, but this time getting things accomplished in a reasonable time and having trains running was the driving force. 

Yes, I printed the maps onto 8.5x11 sheets of paper and taped them together.  The latest version of Google maps allows you to place a ruler between two points on the screen.  You should be able to see the dashed black/white line close to the righthand edge of the paper, especially near the bottom of the picture.  This makes aligning the pages somewhat easier.

I've been enjoying reading about your layout progress.  Keep the updates coming!

Robin

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Bill Brillinger

But...

But... but.. what about Uniroyal? and Elmira? and the bridge in St.Jacobs? And the road crossing in downtown waterloo! sn.sniff-sniffle

...I was so looking forward to seeing my old neighborhood unfold in your basement !

oh well. The module construction look great!

Bill Brillinger

Modeling the BNML in HO Scale, Admin for the RailPro User Group, and owner of Precision Design Co.

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TTX101

(Maybe he should have gone Z scale!)

Or maybe you should!   (How big  would Ontario be  in Z scale, anyway??)

 

Rog.38

 
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CRScott

Ontario in Z

Yeah, a Z scale Ontario might be achievable if you have about 1,900 square miles of space. That'd be a basement that's a bit bigger than Rhode Island.  

Craig Scott

Edmonton, AB

http://smallempires.wordpress.com/

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Trevor at The Model Railway Show

Looks great!

Hi Robin:

I'm glad the musings on my Achievable Layouts blog have proven so useful. Thanks for making my day!

The layout-in-progress looks great. I hope to see it in person some day.

Cheers!

- Trevor

Trevor Marshall

Port Rowan in 1:64

An S scale study of a Canadian National Railways
branch line in southern Ontario - in its twilight years

My blog postings on M-R-H

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rtalukdar

Fear not, Bill!

The Waterloo spur is still alive and well.  In fact, I hung up the shelf brackets in the yet-to-be-finished train room just this past weekend, as I wanted to fill in the gaps that were created in making the modules conform to the new layout space.  And there was way too much stuff covering the floor.

The attached photos aren't the greatest, but they do serve to illustrate how I'm hoping to have the layout float above the furniture and shelving in the room, and where the gaps exist between modules:

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The room is still quite a mess.  I've consolidated all my magazines in here, there are still modules to be hung, and even the patio furniture has found a home for the winter.  Not to mention the very unfinished ceiling and walls.  But hey, it's MY train room, which is a swell thing to have.  Some coved corners, mud on the drywall, and a coat of blue paint will help immensely.

Elmira basically curves around the three visible walls, with the track to St. Jacobs planned to sneak out the left side of the top picture, through the roughed in bathroom, and thence around the main room which will one day feature St. Jacobs and Waterloo.

So now I have two model railroads to divide my modelling time between.  Hmmm, smart idea?  Oh well.  It's all good.

Robin

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rtalukdar

Come on down!

Trevor (and anyone else interested),

Next time you're in the Niagara region, let me know and I'll gladly show you the Pine Street and Waterloo spurs.  I'm always up for a model railroad discussion over a pint at the Butcher & Banker as well!

Robin

waterloospur.blogspot.ca

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Robert J. Thomas rjthomas909

Great Summary of the Layout on TMTV

Robin,

A great segment with you and Lionel on TrainMasters TV:  https://trainmasters.tv/videos/2018-08-5

You seem to be a kindred spirit.  I also switched to this construction method after having trouble with end plates on a box-frame constructed module.   I have built 8 modules including 2 corners that are similar in dimension (18 inches wide, and lengths from 3.5 ft to 7.5 ft.  As you mention, about 4 ft is good for portability.  

Your explanation gave me a couple of things to think about as I start to lay track, including your use of the 2x2 inch stock under the PCB tie plates.   I will definitely give that a try.  

A couple of things that I have done include adding a very shallow dado/rabbet combination of slots to the end plates where the sides and center beams connect as well as the upper base plate.  I did use 1/2 inch ply for my upper plate because I had a bunch on hand.  The slots gave me a bit more reproducibility in squaring up the ends.   I also built the modules just a bit deeper (taller) than yours appear to accommodate switch machines with plug connectors and wires, and extended the sides up along the pink foam and then cut them back to follow the terrain with a zip cutter.   This seems to function well as fascia, but does not permit adjustment if reused. 

I have also found that the casters used by the Sipping and Switching society (with locking wheels) are quite good when you need to move a group of modules.   I created similar leg assemblies as your own, but with a L-shape from a 1x2 and 1x3, and 2x2 block at the end to mount the caster.   

Again, a great layout and information for all!

-Bob T. 

 

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Robert J. Thomas

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