barr_ceo

I'm in the process of planning the framework for a T-Trak interchange module. Track plan can be seen in the post below. Here's the question:

How tightly can Foamcore be bent?

I have three options I'm considering:

1) Plain rectangular module - Takes of a lot of extra real estate, but definitely the simplest build.

2) Cut corners - the "empty" corners of the module cut off to give an angled "near diamond" shape to the module. Doesn't require bending, but also doesn't give a smoothly flowing shape.

3) Inside corners curved to match the track - Corners curved at approximately a  12 inch radius. It doesn't SEEM like I can do it that tightly, but if there are techniques that allow it, I'de love to hear them.

(Give me a chance to get the pictures posted in the next post...)

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barr_ceo

What I'm trying to accomplish...

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This is the basic rectangular module. It's a triple length interchange module, and measures 928 mm x 474 mm (roughly 36.4 x 18.6 inches, and those overall dimensions won't change no matter what the shape ends up looking like. )

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"Cutting the corners" would yield a roughly diamond shaped module, with less wasted space, but still not what I would consider "elegant". Still easy to build.

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With the curved lines, this gives a much cleaner appearance - but is it even possible? I've played around with the foam core.  The pieces that would have to be curved are about 65 mm (2.5 inches) high. I can't get them to bend cleanly (without kinking) at the radius that is necessary to do this (roughly 300mm, 12 inches) - Any ideas?

The top of the module will be 1 inch (25mm) extruded foam, so there will be plenty of surface to glue to.

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Prof_Klyzlr

Curving Foamcore?

Dear Barr,

If by "foamboard" you mean 5mm foamcore, I know you can get a reliable smooth curve down to at-least 4"/100mm radii.

The key is to lightly score lines with a ball-point pen or similar Blunt-Pointed object approx every 10mm or so along the length of the curve,

so you just crease (Not Break/Split/Cut!the paper surface.

Use the creased-side as the inside of the curved piece,
and the creases will act as a kind-of concertina/passenger-car end-door-diaphragm,
allowing the foamcore to be curved.

 

Of course, for larger radii cuves, the scoring/creasing is not required...
(That front curved member is describing something like a 5'/1500mm radii curve)

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Happy Modelling,
Aim to Improve,
Prof Klyzlr

​PS when bending and hotgluing the curved pieces to the stiffeners, take your time and do it in gradual sections, trying to glue the entire curved-section in one move is fools-folly, and will give a sub-par result...

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barr_ceo

Foam Core N Scale T-Trak Interchange module - the result

1835%201.JPG Well, it worked!

After thinking long and hard about exactly how I was going to do this, I started by laying out the shape of the module on the 1" foam top, cutting it to shape, then hot gluing the short end pieces on the pink foam. The long straight side was next, then the curves.

The curved foam core pieces were scored with a ballpoint pen (black, of course...) every half inch (roughly 12 mm) and then bent slightly by hand at each scored line. As a result, the foam core curves are "faceted" on the exposed face, the inside of the curve... but because it's black, you can't even see that from 2 feet away. 

1836%201.JPG  I made no attempt to measure the length of the curves. I simply glued the pre-bent pieces to them, then cut it to length when I reached the end.

All the hot glue work was done with the pink foam top turned upside down, and the plastic folding table I was working on became the "surface plate" to keep the sides and top even .

Yet to do: Cut a couple of holes in the foam top to pass the wires for the Kato turnouts through, cut a couple of double track pieces lengthwise to go next to the turnouts (so those pieces will have concrete ties, too...), paint the ties on the single track curves to match the concrete double track, work out a way to mount leveling bolts, and of course add scenery - don't want a pink foam plain!

The module is a full Triple length T-Trak module (928mm, just under 39 inches on the longest side), so it doesn't require any "filler" pieces or an odd length matching modules on the other side of the layout like regular "junction" modules do.

Thanks, Professor.... I knew scoring cardboard and styrene sheeting worked, but it just didn't occur to me to use the same technique on something as thick as foam core.

BTW... I experimented a little with a couple of pieces of scrap... with the half-inch spacing on the scored lines, I was able to get the foam core to bend in a TWO INCH radius (roughly 50mm) without kinking. That's just crazy!

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Prof_Klyzlr

Curvy... gorgeous...

Dear Barr,

Glad to hear it worked, and the results sure do look gorgeous. Now next time we have another "is it possible to build something with foamcore?" thread, I'll have to remember to link back to this...

I'm sure you've considered that you could face the curved foamcore with matteboard or similar thin card to give a smooth-surface curve, or dark charcoal car carpet (for a ruggedized warm-and-fuzzy feel),

but as noted, if any scoring and "faceting"/curve-segmenting is already "hidden in black"
(another argument for darker fascias), then I'd say "just go with it" and enjoy the results...

Happy Modelling,
Aim to Improve,
Prof Klyzlr

PS can't wait for pics of the Jct in action...

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