Rick Abramson

What a shame how Bachman messed up their new HO PRR GG1. Their model of the last PRR paint scheme which was Dark Green Locomotive Enamel, buff gold single stripe with large keystone is done incorrectly.

When I saw the model at the Amherst,MA show I asked the Bachman rep why the PRR lettering in the keystone and outline of the keystone were buff gold, they both should be white. I indicated to him it was wrong.

He informed me that I was wrong, that they had done "extensive research." I even offered to show him a color photo; not interested!

I even went so far as to email to Bachman a color broadside of a GG1 in this scheme. They never acknowledged it.

I spoke with their head of R&D on this; he too told me they were correct in how they did it.

So, anyone contemplating purchasing this GG1 in this scheme, be aware it is wrong! Of all the GG1s made in the past, from Penn Line up to, but not including the Bachman, they have all been correct.

The other PRR schemes have errors too.

BUYER BEWARE!

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Benny

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Quite frankly, I don't think they care, and it quite possibly doesn't matter...

And I further do not have access to their sources, which means they may be right.

If the error is that small, get a decal and make it right on your piece.

[Precision Scale offered a brass example of 4800 with gold lining and lettering in the herald, so...look through the GG-1 books]

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Benny's Index or Somewhere Chasing Rabbits

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Bernd

PRR GG1 color

You mean this one on the prototype. The single stripe looks gold to me. The herald is white  and red on the side. The front herald looks like it could be gold and red. Next time take a picture with you to show them the true colors.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r293/VIEWLINER/PTA/RRC3.jpg

 

Bernd

New York, Vermont & Northern Rwy. - Route of the Black Diamonds - NCSWIC

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locoi1sa

Wrong research.

  Rick.

 Manufactures for years have been wrong with a lot of things and not just paint schemes. How many Atheran bay window cabins say PRR on the sides? In what world is this a GG1??? And why is there a bid on it?

   BLI works closely with the PRRT&HS on all their projects but why are all my locomotives a different shade of DGLE?

    As an aside, I can not see why Bachmann would tool up and produce a  locomotive tha has been already produced by so many other manufactures already. If I were them I would have done something nobody has done before such as a center cab transfer unit like this.

            Pete

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Ken Biles Greyhart

Why make what others have already done?

Probably because the others made money with that model, so they expect to make money as well. Yes, making a model that no one else has produced would be great, but will it sell enough to pay for the expense of research, development and tooling?

Much as we would like to have unique and interesting models, the bottom line is still the Bottom Line.

 

 Ken Biles

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JodyG

Rick, can you please post

Rick, can you please post your "correct" reference photo?
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reddogpt

Rick is right.

Jody, the correct pic is already posted. Look at Bernd's picture. It shows exactly what a Rick said.

Pete

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Nelsonb111563

I personally don't care!

Never going to own one for any reason.  I would also have a hard time saying something is wrong based on 1 photo.  Produce several photos of a given prototype proving they are wrong, but don't get to excited about telling a rep he is wrong unless he is "your" rep and you plan on purchasing a large lot of "incorrect" engines.

Nelson Beaudry,  Principle/CEO

Kennebec, Penobscot and Northern RR Co.

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Bernd

Bachmann is not the only one

Thread from 2008. They couldn't get it right back then either, and this is in O scale. No Bachmann here.

http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/scale-gg1-comparison----gg1s-live-on

Kato got it right.

http://www.katousa.com/N/GG1/137-2011.jpg

How about that, even the Pennys got it right.

http://photos.pennsyrr.com/displayimage.php?pid=2849&fullsize=1

Next time take pictures with you of the real thing. Then when they say you're wrong, wip out the pictures and ask them to explain the difference. Go in loaded for bear.

Bernd

New York, Vermont & Northern Rwy. - Route of the Black Diamonds - NCSWIC

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locoi1sa

I agree.

Nelson.

 I agree with you. Since I don't have  overhead wires on my track I would not be getting one either. Running them around without the pans reaching for the wire is silly in my book.

         Pete

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Rick Abramson

Thank you!

To all of you fellow modelers who posted the shots of the GG1 scheme I spoke about. . .THANK YOU!! I would say that your postings back up my comments 100%.

 

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ctxmf74

How about that, even the Pensys got it right.

or did they? Pennsy's long gone and Bachman is still kicking so maybe Bachman got it right and Pennsy was wrong? ......DaveB

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Rick Abramson

Not likely. . .

DaveB. . . Nice try,  LOL

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Pok

Other errors...

Rick, you mention

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The other PRR schemes have errors too.

I'm pondering buying a #4935 and „place” it in ~'43.

Could you mention what is wrong - if anything - (with Bachmann #65303 - Brunswick Green, 5-Stripe), for that period?

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