Gregory Latiak GLatiak

Now that my summer project is more or less complete I was able to get back to working on the railroad and finishing out the changes that I started in spring.

In the folds of the layout there are a number of hidden track areas where occupancy detection would be useful. This has always been the plan -- but what changed was the realization that with two boosters and monitored sections on both, it seemed desirable to expand the areas being detected. Since the track feeders were being restructured this didn't seem like too much of an issue -- until I realized that there were a number of places that would need electrical gaps that did not currently have them. Not so much fun to take stuff apart in close quarters until I realized that when the undoing was tricky, putting the track segment back where I had used flextrack or a segment of sectional track was a lot easier if I cut the webs between the plastic ties on one end for the first 2 or three ties. This allowed the ties to be slid back on the track providing room for the rail joiner -- so the whole segment could just be dropped in place. Much, much easier when there are only a few inches to warp.

This is not a problem with the hand laid segments -- the last inch of rail was always left free so the rail joiner had some place to slide.

It has been educational to go back through my older trackwork and make changes or corrections. One thing I will never do again is use gapped rails in curved sections of flextrack. Over time all of these shifted on the adhesive and formed a kink. Most of these can be spiked back into alignment but it is not always easy. Gaps cut with the Dremel work well in straight sections of flex trackl (which I have relatively few of) and in hand laid turnouts -- the soldered ties provide a lot of stability. But over the last two years every single gapped piece of curved flextrack has crept out of alignment. So I am using those wretched plastic rail joiners where shifting is likely to happen. Warming them makes fitting them onto my combination of code 87 track sizes (Atlas, ME, Walthers/Shinohara) a bit less miserable.

Other lesson learned -- tis easier to gap and not use that to retrofit electrical gaps to existing laid track. Wish I had thought of that earlier.

Gregory Latiak

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prostreetamx

rail gaps

I've been wiring my track for multi feed sections for DCC or most likely RailPro with many districts for short protection and future signalling. I learned pretty quick not to cut gaps in curved sections of flex track. I normally solder any joint in a curved section even before I caulk them down. Luckily there is not much temp and humidly shift in my train room in my Las Vegas home.

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Mule_Shoe_and_Western

Rigid Gaps

G,

I too avoid gaps in curved sections where possible.  I find the plastic joiners are a waste of time.  They are too soft to hold the rails in alignment and look bad.  I lay the track without regard to electrical districting.  I then cut the gaps with a Dremel tool using the thinnest carbide cutoff wheel.  (They come in different thicknesses)  I then fill the gap with black styrene, gluing it in place with CA adhesive.  After allowing it to cure completely, I trim the filler to the rail profile using the Dremel cutoff disk and a small file.  This produces a secure joint that will hold during rail flexing, will not close during temperature changes, and looks good.  Be sure to stagger the placement of the gaps by 1/4" or so when gapping both rails. 

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rickwade

Oh no! I wish I had read this earlier.

Last night I cut gaps in my Micro Engineering Code 83 flextrak on the approaches to the swing gate - and it's in curved sections! I'm going to look at trying to find a way to reinforce the areas "in place". I might be able to get some PC ties installed or perhaps use some epoxy.

Rick

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Nelsonb111563

Use track nails or spikes.

Rick, I have had good luck using track nails or spikes driven on both sides of the rails.  This would only work with a wood sub roadbed however. PC ties are a good way to go if you have foam sub roadbed and then gluing them in place.

Nelson Beaudry,  Principle/CEO

Kennebec, Penobscot and Northern RR Co.

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rickwade

Thanks Nelson, I appreciate

Thanks Nelson, I appreciate your input. I have foam roadbed so the PC ties are probably the way to go.

Rick

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Russ Bellinis

Bread clips will work for filler at gaps.

The plastic bread clips used to hold the plastic bag on new loaves of bread closed are styrene.  You can glue a bread clip into a gap in the rail with lacquer thinner, Tenax, Testors liquid glue, MEK or your favorite liquid glue for plastics.  Once the glue joint is dry, trim the clip with rail nippers to get the plastic close to the size of the rail, and then finish shaping with small files.  Paint the sides off the plastic to match your rail weathering.

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prostreetamx

curved track gap repair.

I recently purchased Micro engineering rail joiners for some custom track work. They are very low profile and can be slipped in place on micro engineering code 83 rail to repair gaps you cut in a curved section. Unfortunately they will not work on the Atlas flex track I used in most areas. Many of my gaps fall at my Proto 87 switch kits that already have an isolated frog so I just insulate the outer rail at that point. For gaps I forgot to put in during track laying, I also cut a gap and glue in a plastic spacer, but not on a curve anymore.

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Gregory Latiak GLatiak

Thanks

Thanks for the comments. I had tried cutting the gap with a Dremel and gluing in styrene -- used this technique in a few places and found it worked quite well. Still use it where the track is going to be stable over time. In the yard that I am just finishing up I am using those wretched plastic joiners -- as with lots of turnouts in close quarters the chance of having to take something up seemed significant. But they are ugly and will be painted and buried as quickly as possible.

I also found some gap fillers on FastTracks that are laser cut rail profiles in wood. Used these on some turnouts to backfill the Dremel-cut gaps, sliding them in on gap filling CA. Less work than shaping pieces of styrene -- but also around here all the dealers stock is white. 

Gregory Latiak

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rickwade

Thanks, Glatiak for the

Thanks, Glatiak for the information on the rail gap fillers. I was going to ask my friend and super modeler Michael Rose to design & produce the rail gap fillers on his laser but I instead ordered some from FastTracks. Now Michael can keep up the break-neck speed on his layout!

Rick

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