Neil Erickson NeilEr

After considering everyone's comments and suggestions thing have been slowly progressing. While the journey is enjoyable, I am eager to get some trains running. Below are some shots of progress to date. 

This seems to be a good spot as any to document construction so may stay here (with exception to my normal diversions). It is changing as I build and learn more. Less is more.

The plan is scaled up from HO to On30 in my 16'x24' room (outside dimensions).

Neil

Umauma Railway & Navigation and it's subsidiary Umauma Plantation Railroad

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seustis13

Track Plan

Neil,

Sorry you haven't gotten any feedback on your plan from the assembled masses here, but maybe that's because your plan seems just fine to me, and there isn't much I see that could use improvement.  You've taken an old, published plan, and adapted it nicely to your space.  If it were me, I would try to figure out a way to include a continuous run loop (maybe just with a simple removable bridge that would not be in place 90% of the time, but could be installed when Aunt Tilly or the neighbors or the golf buddies who don't give a rat's a$$ about trains) want to go to your train room to see a few trains run while asking you way too many questions for you to pay much attention to the trains that are running -- but that's about it for my critique.  You've got great scenery possibilities, great operating potential for 1-3 operators, and good access to all track for maintenance, etc.  Since this is a plan I could see myself drooling over (if I hadn't settled on my own in a similar space), what's not to like?

Sandy

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Bing

Track plan

Giving your track plan a once over you are right, less is more.You have a track plan that allows switching in one area and sending a train out on a longer run. Real long if you hold it in a hidden area. It looks like you could have two or three operators going at a time. Nice layout with room for expansion (more) in different areas. Looks like you can use any time era. I'm assuming HO and DCC. How big a train room do you have? Have fun and you're doing it right! 

God's Best and Happy Rails to You!

 Bing,

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jlewisf3

TRACK PLAN

Neil The only suggestion I have would be to work in a passing siding along the inner leg of the wye in the lower left hand corner of the railroad. I know that you can use the wye as a passing siding, but a regular siding would allow easier consist shuffling. Ie-putting a caboose at the opposite end of the train. Jeff Fry Will Tennessee Pass fit in my basement?
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seustis13

Passing Siding

Now I'm of exactly the opposite opinion, but then I love switching puzzles.  I'd like to see the lower left corner developed as a small town, with NO passing siding, only the wye and 2-3 sidings running off its various legs -- at least one crossing through the center and then across another leg.  Over the years, I've seen a couple of plans with this kind of arrangement, (one was a Model Railroader plan called the Sagatukett River, reprinted on page 60 of the collection Track Planning Ideas: 58 Track Plans from Past Issues.) I tried operating one of these wye based puzzles once, and it took me about half my natural life to get a 5 car train sorted out and spotted, the engine turned, and empties picked up for the return trip.  I was so smitten that I went home and immediately started doodling similar track layout ideas, and came very close to building one --  in HO in 42"' x 7' (with the wye puzzle up top, and a single track circling down to a lower level reversing loop.) 

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ChagaChooChoo

Nice plan

I like it.  Enough space for some of everything.  Switching, buildings, landforms.  Like Sandy said above, I also like to have the option for a continuous loop.  Mostly for visitors, but also to break in new locos, letting a train run to test out new rolling stock, plus, while I'm working on a model, I just like to hear the train running in the background.  If you're interested in it but don't want to impinge on your present design, perhaps a lift-out section that joins across the doorway might do the trick.  Just store it underneath when you don't want to use it.

Just my 1.1 cents.  (That's 2 cents, after taxes.)

Kevin

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bear creek

Longer run?

An interesting concept/plan that should provide lots of operation potential for you.

It looks like you could get a longer visible run by making Bendaire the first stop out of "staging" (reverse loop) and connecting Red Mountain with Muley Gap at a higher elevation.

Oakhill on the BC&SJ regularly uses a wye for run-around purposes. Crews are always eager to run the Oakhill Turn so I'd say keep the wye. Adding another siding or two to the wye might not be a bad idea.

If there's enough vertical separation, add a track or two along the left wall under the wye to act as additional staging.

The way the track plan is drawn, it looks like the track to track separation for the passing sidings is different in all three towns.

You didn't provide any dimensions for your room and plan or your scale -- it seems possible that you may have access problems to the "right" end of the siding at Red Mountain. Omitting some of the spoke tracks from the Red Mountain turntable might help. Sliding Red Mountain to the left would also help with the reach to the end of the siding. If you plan to switch trains on your layout, you'll need better access to couple/uncouple when switching spurs and Red Mountain

Just some thoughts.

Cheers,

Charlie

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BOK

For some reason I can't see

For some reason I can't see your track plan on any of your posts or blog.

It sounds like an interesting plan and would love to see it. Can you point me to a source to view it?

 

Thanks,

 

Barry

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Bremner

now you can...

http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/sites/model-railroad-hobbyist.com/files/image_30.jpg

 

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Bill Brillinger

Bremmer

If you set the width of that image to 750px then it will be fully visible.

Bill Brillinger

Modeling the BNML in HO Scale, Admin for the RailPro User Group, and owner of Precision Design Co.

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Uploads from the iPad

Thanks Bremner! I couldn't do that from here. Just too lazy to bust out the MacBook. Neil

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Bremner

Bill....

it's not my image, I just stole the link and posted it for the OP

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Longer run?

I think that one of my railroad hobbies is designing track plans so this one had some of the "stuff" I wanted to get started. My room is an old studio for drafting above my workshop at home. It is roughly 15'x23' but the walls on each end are only 4' high. The roof slopes at 7" in 12" so I can stand up straight about 4' from the wall (I'm 6'-4" tall). Catch 22 is that I like the railroad up high - close and personal. This is O scale 30" gauge so I'd fun to feel in the scene. My yard is about 54" off the floor ( so needs to be a way from the end walls) and climbs to over 64" up to the wye. On reason I don't have much track planned there is the height make it hard to uncouple (or use the 0-5-0 to re-rail). Although I have the occasional visitor, 99% of the time this is my space Lone. I'm happy to focus on one area for a long time and not have to run trains. When my dad or buddy shows up I just hand them a throttle (yes, DCC) and explain what a "turn" is or "local" and let them figure out how to set out a car or run against a closed switch. Most enjoy the opportunity and don't expect a toy train experience. Btw: I like having to turn a train on a wye. If the stock cars are spotted on one leg and can't be moved then this can take some thinking! Neil Umauma, Hawaii

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Drooling

Thanks for kicking this off! Most of my family knows that I build scale miniatures and enjoy railroad history so wouldn't expect to see a continuous run. At some point I may set up JMRI or add a login board to run a passenger local to and from staging or up to the wye and back. That might keep me on my toes while working the mills. Most of my other friends know about my large scale stuff but are generally not invited to see the On30 layout. Most would not understand anyway. If you saw my other post then you know that I'm in no rush and the space is littered with projects and open magazines or photos on the wall for inspiration or motivation. It was just time to get going on a layout again and under portions of this are ruminants of an HO standard gauge line that was really too much to accomplish and had so many operation possibilities (to allow phased construction, I explained) that I burned out. On30 is a breath of fresh air but, damn, it takes a lot of space! Neil

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bcrailrodder

We think alike

I've been thinking of using that plan (modified of course) for a while.  Don't quite know why but I've always liked it.

Kent

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Tore Hjellset

Red Mountain Ry.

Nice to see that I'm not the only one that's been inspired by this MR plan

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Jeff G.

One suggestion

Hi Neil:

Nice plan. Always liked Bill Baumann's designs.  At any rate, how about replacing the hidden reverse loop with a staging yard, a turntable at the far end allowing engines to turn around.  I assume the loop is on a lower level?  At any rate, doing this would save aisle space where the loop would be.

Good luck!

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Fascia and stuff

Now that I have some of my sections together and in the studio - er, train room - below are some things I've been working on - and off. 

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The curved backdrop against the sloping ceiling poses some challenges. It is painted the same sky blue but doesn't look right. I may follow Bill's idea with a simple LED valance to give extra light and frame the layout. Jury is still out. My wife suggested a stormy, cloudy sky so may try that as "it's only paint" as she put it. 

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The sloping ceiling gets pretty close to the roadbed. Maybe a tunnel? Unlikely but not improbable. 

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While I was working to connect the sections it became clear that O scale, even narrow gage, need a lot of space for plausible buildings that would require rail service. I extended three spurs like this to accommodate more than a couple cars.   The Soda Works here will have to be long and narrow. 

That's for tonight. 

Neil

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

My wife helped me haul up the

My wife helped me haul up the future tall steel trestle frame so I could keep moving toward a mainline that is connected from staging to Halaewa. The wye at the end of the line will have to wait a while. 

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Thanks for looking. 

Neil

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

One step forward

and two steps back? (Or maybe I should say "I don't need no stinking clearance gauge!")

Clearly building scenery THEN checking clearance is NOT a good idea. 

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My goal has been to get some basic ground cover over the majority of the railroad by New Years (2016 but maybe 2017 is a more realistic goal). As my over zealous actions illustrate, a little planning should be in order. To the left of this scene a trestle seemed appropriate so I've stopped here and been experimenting with planting sugar cane. Perhaps I'll post my trials tomorrow. I did find this shot online of a harvest and am inspired to find a spot to have the cane cars being loaded. 

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Too many projects in the works! 

Neil

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