rickwade
Anybody have any experience with the Sprog II programmer? Rick

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PeterU

No but ask your question

No but ask your question and maybe I can help.

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Geared Steam

Yes

I do

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rickwade

From the manufacturer's description

"SPROG II is The programmer for all DCC decoder needs, and works with the powerful JMRI DecoderPro software to support configuration programming of any DCC decoder, including sound decoders. SPROG 2 gives you the ability to program DCC decoders using your computer without the need to move your computer to the railway room, or your existing DCC system to the computer room. SPROG II is complementary to your existing DCC system, and operates as a separate decoder reading/programming facility, with a dedicated section of track. SPROG II is supported on a range of hardware platforms and operating systems by DecoderPro. The JMRI DecoderPro software gives you automated recognition of decoders, a comprehensive record of your complete roster, easy to use views of all settings, and full access to all Configuration Variables." I don't have specific questions - I want to know if anybody has used one. Rick

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East Rail

Great Product

Hey Rick, I picked one up a few months ago and love it. No more fiddling with readback issues, no more programming track boosters. The Sprog II combined with DecoderPro does what technology should do, and that is make things much, much simpler. I ordered mine from DCC Trains in Ohio http://www.dcctrain.com/shop/ and had it on my doorstep in less than 48 hours. Bruce addressed it also in one of his more recent columns. Lance

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DKRickman

What makes it better?

What makes the Sprog 2 (or Sprog 3, for that matter) better than some of the other, less expensive DCC/Computer interfaces out there.  I am thinking specifically of the PR3.

One of my big peeves with these things is that they'll all work to program a decoder, but you need a proprietary one to load sounds on a programmable sound decoder.  So you'll need interfaces from Digitrax, Soundtraxx, ESU, and probably others if you want to use custom sound files.  Since each sound decoder has it's advantages, I don't want to be limited to one brand, but I also don't want to limit myself to programming only one.  Why can't one programmer do the job for all?

Ken Rickman

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rickwade

Thanks, EastRail

Thank you for sharing your experience.  There are times that I would like to do some loco programming away from my railroad so that's why I'm looking at a product like this.

 

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rickwade

Amen, Ken!

You said: "Why can't one programmer do the job for all?"  I couldn't agree with you more!

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JRG1951

Command Station

The Sprog II if hooked to a booster could also allow your computer to be a command station. This will need a software program and a booster that accepts Track signals. I am no expert, but this is a possible use of the system.

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PeterU

Sprog II as a command station

As it is, the Sprog II can act as a mini command station to run a small layout without a booster (maximum current draw of 1.25 amps I believe). Sprog also has a 2.5 amp booster available.

It is meant to be used with JMRI and it's computer throttles. Which means if your set up with wifi you can also use iPhones and iPads or Android devices as throttles.

Peter Ulvestad

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DKRickman

Sprog 2 vs. PR3

So, the advantage of the Sprog 2 over the PR3 is that it has a built-in booster, correct?  That's an interesting thing, because it means the cost of getting into DCC for a small layout is around $120 - $100 for a Sprog 2 and $20 for a decoder.  Not bad!

Ken Rickman

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railtwister

SPROG II - What makes it better?

Hi Ken,

Simple answer - it works! I originally bought a Digitrax PR3 and an HP NetBook computer to use as a portable stand-alone programmer for my module club when we set up at train shows. I tried unsuccessfully for a couple of months to get the PR3 software to work with the netbook. I even enlisted the help of an IT guy at a local High School, and he was only able to to get the software to partially work. The hardware would work fine on my Mac desktop using JMRI DecoderPro (both of which were unsupported by Digitrax, but this was hardly a portable setup! Digitrax support was of no help at all, since it involved using a computer, although they did offer to replace the PR3 with a new one. I took them up on that offer, even though I knew there was nothing wrong with the hardware, since it worked fine with my desktop and DecoderPro. By now I was very unhappy to have spent about $400 out of the model railroad budget for a system that refused to work as advertised. I had thought about keeping the PR3 and using the Netbook and DecoderPro with it, rather than the Digitrax Soundloader program, but by that time I was so PO'd at Digitrax' lack of support and their lame software, that I bought the SPROG II when the distributor promised me full phone support and a refund if it didn't work with my netbook. Fortunately, it worked the first time with no problems at all, so I ended up not needing any of the promised support. Also, with the SPROG II, I can switch to Virtual Throttle mode, and test run any loco I've programmed on the program track, without needing to go to the layout, which is a very handy feature. The manufacturer now has announced a SPROG 3, which has a higher amp output and is better suited for running a small layout. For more details, see: < http://www.sprog.us.com/

Unfortunately, all sound decoders require proprietary programmers to manipulate the sound files, but the SPROG II can still program the basic things like addresses, functions and CV's.

 

Bill in FtL

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