DKRickman

Traction tires.  They do their job, but they're the source of problems like loss of continuity and they break, come off, pick up junk, dirt, etc.  Plus, the rubber is very sensitive to any oil, such as the grease in No-ox.

So, what do you do?  I'd like to replace them with something a little better.  The problem is, what and how?  I've thought of using J-B Weld, but I'm wondering if there is a better option.  Replacing the wheels with solid ones is not always an option.  What about a silicone tire?  Do they even make things like that?  would they last any better than rubber tires?

Ken Rickman

Danville & Western HO modeler and web historian

http://southern-railway.railfan.net/dw/

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joef

Bullfrog Snot!

You're looking for Bullfrog Snot. They're an advertiser, just check the Hobby Marketplace in recent issues.

Joe Fugate​
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locoi1sa

Why is replacement not an

Why is replacement not an option? I have replaced all mine with no issues. There are a few sources for locomotive drivers steam or diesel.

      Pete

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DKRickman

Better than new

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Why is replacement not an option?

Replacement is definitely an option.  What I'm hoping for, however, are some suggestions on what I can do to improve on the traction tires.  If nothing else, I'd like to find something that I don't have to worry about as I apply No-ox to the layout.

Ken Rickman

Danville & Western HO modeler and web historian

http://southern-railway.railfan.net/dw/

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Rio Grande Dan

Rubber, Bull Frog Snot and No-ox

First let me say when you use any Track cleaning and Track treatment products you need to allow it to dry for a couple hours before running trains and then using a clean lint free cloth wipe the rails as clean and dry as you can possibly wipe them. Doing this will not remove the purpose No-ox was made for it just removes the excess oils and grease from the rails.

Second Bull Frog Snot is the best tire traction product I have ever found for model railroading. I have a few grades that are 3-4% and My C-16 through My C-19 engines drive being light weight 2-8-0 engines with more than 5 cars will just spin their wheels before I started using Bull Frog Snot. Now after applying Bull Frog Snot to just two drive wheels on these engines I can pull more than 18 cars with just one engine. I still bring in 1 or 2 helpers to be more prototypical but Bull Frog Snot is better than any rubber tire I have ever had on any engine.

When cleaning Track and wheels don't leave excess cleaning product and or No-ox on anything. I found that after the cleaning products dry on my Rails & engines wheels I wipe them as clean as possible.

Once the cleaning process is completed I will apply a new coating of Bull Frog Snot on my drive wheels just because the jar comes with so much that unless you have 50+ engines you will never use it all before the jar dries out, Not that it's needed, I just got in the habit of doing that because I have 4% grades on my RGS HOn3 layout and the cleaning products have a tendencies to cause the rubber tires to become loose and in some cases come completely off at this point I replace the tires with Bull Frog Snot which so far nothing makes it stretch or peel off the drive wheels.

If you follow the directions on the package it states Bull Frog Snot Requires several hours or overnight to dry before allowing the train to be run and shows a couple photos of what the Snot looks like once dry and cured. I always give the tires at least 8-12 hours to dry and so far on 17 Narrow gauge engines I have no slippage ever as long as I follow all track cleaning procedures. 

I also must say it's Because of the forums here at MRH that I starting using Bull Frog Snot. Before Joe and a few others recommended it in one of the discussions on traction I didn't even know Bull Frog Snot existed.

Dan

Rio Grande Dan

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Dwhitten

I told you!

I told you Ken, Bull Frog Snot is the way to go!

Dustin Whitten

Atlantic & East Virginia Railway

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DKRickman

Options?

What is Bull Frog Snot made of?  I've also thought of using Silicone sealant, since it should be impervious to pretty much anything.  Has anybody tried that?

I've heard of people using liquid electrical tape, claiming that it's basically the same thing as Bull Frog Snot but a lot cheaper.  Any comments?

What about something more durable, like J-B Weld?  maybe even something metal?  I've wondered whether J-B Weld would conduct electricity, since it has metal in it.  If so, it might be a great way to fill those tire groves as though they never existed.

Ken Rickman

Danville & Western HO modeler and web historian

http://southern-railway.railfan.net/dw/

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Crusty Old Shellback

Another vote for Bullfrog snot

Yep, about the best out there. Fills in holes as well.

I used it on my Bachman N scalle 4-4-0 americans. While it was a pain to put on and get it to set just right, they pull like mad now.

One way i found of getting a bettre coat of it on was to mix a little water with it and then apply it. Seemed to work great. It just took a little longer to set and dry. But was worth the effort in th end.

Find someone local who has some and see if you can borrow some or buy a little of it from them. One little jar will last you a life time.

My arms got too short so I've switched to G scale. Old steam and early diesel are my choice of loco. Scratch built is better.

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