eastwind

There's a new article here: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/disastrous-flooding-cuts-vancouver-rail-road-service

with a picture of a nearly-washed-out railroad bridge over a completely-washed out road bridge. 

It's not a great image, it's apparently taken out the window of a plane or helicopter and it's fuzzy (due to vibration I suppose). But you can see (barely) the bridge has guard rails, and the relative distance between them and the stock rails (looks to be splitting the gauge into thirds). You can see roughly how far the guard rails extend beyond the bridge (right to the line made by the plane's window). Its also a bit curious what happens to the railroad line in the distance of the picture. I can't tell whether it's curving around the mountain out of sight or taking a steep downgrade.

And related to the recent discussion about the regularity of river shore lines, you can see a section of that, too.

I thought some might find the pic interesting. 

Looks to me like years of work before those spans will be back in operation.

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Tenpenny

I think all of the highways

I think all of the highways leading east out of southern bc and both rail lines are washed out.

I think the only way to get freight out of Vancouver right now is to go through the US, which will be a logistical mess, or trucks can use ferries to go up the coast and then head east, but that’s expensive in time and money. 

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packnrat

it looks like some "engineer"

it looks like some "engineer" tried to control mother nature by bending the flow of the creek. (the view on the very rt side of the photo).

should have allowed the creek to flow straight, and at 150 - 200 % of normal flow.

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Bernd

The Bridge

Looks like the railroad bridge didn't move, but the road bridge got completely washed out.

Bernd

New York, Vermont & Northern Rwy. - Route of the Black Diamonds - NCSWIC

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Tom Edwards edwardstd

British Columbia a few days ago

This is a photo of one of the roads washed out by the downpour in B.C. a couple of days ago. Northern Washington state also got it. Both CP and CN lines out of Vancouver will be out of service for a while. Here are more photos of the area:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-environment/these-images-show-the-scale-of-flooding-across-b-c-1.5669998

 

Tom Edwards

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maclatchymr

Bridge Washout

I know this spot well, it is the "Tank Hill" overpass on Highway 1 (the Trans-Canada Highway) and the CPR. There was no highway bridge at this location before now. The railway bridge was an overpass over the highway only. Prior to all the disruption you see a watercourse came down a side valley to a culvert that took it under both the railway and highway. Normally this is pretty dry country. 

The storm event that caused this was massive. I believe the culvert was overwhelmed by the very high flows, which then went to the next relief spot to get down the hill. That turned out to be the highway at the overpass. As the event went on the flow cut down through the highway, took out the highway embankment and exposed the pile foundation of the railway bridge, which is still standing. It is worse now, with the railway approaches significantly washed out on both sides of the overpass. 

The CPR is the worst hit of the two railways that follow the river here. CN has somewhat less damage and I understand will be back in service by the end of the weekend. 

Regards, Mike MacLatchy

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MikeHughes

Much of the flooded area around Abbotsford and Chilliwack

Was known as Sumas Lake before they drained it about a hundred years ago to make below sea-level farmland.  

Then there is the Coquihala.  CPR eventually gave up this canyon after decades of fighting against floods, washouts, snow slides, mud slides.  

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/351932/New-photos-of-devastation-on-Coquihalla-Highway. 

I would doubt it will re-open before next summer.

Mother nature rules all, and all of this is predictable.  Last time the Sumas plain flooded was about 20 years ago, and they’ve done zilch to mitigate anything.  Rumours are the “Committee  in charge” hasn’t even met in almost 10 years.

I am stranded in many ways.  My Jeep is awaiting an engine, not that I could drive home anyways as all the highways are closed pending repairs.  My plane is in Alberta and I can’t get to her as our government has made our airlines, trains, etc.  inaccessible to those of us unwilling to put ourselves at risk with their jabs.   Ah well, trips to the LTS and grocery store are now made on the Harley with plastic bags to cover anything that won’t fit in the deck or saddlebags.  Christmas may end up being away from family this year.

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eastwind

Ok, I stand corrected about

Ok, I stand corrected about my guess in the OP that there was a partially railroad bridge over a completely washed out road bridge. That should now be a washed out railroad bridge over a place where mother nature has decided they will now be building a bridge.

Due to a conversation with a friend who lives in NW washington I got to reading about gasoline supplies in the area. It seems there are 5 oil refineries on the Puget Sound (in 3 locations) and they get most of their crude via tanker from Alaska but also get about a quarter of their crude via the Trans Mountain Pipeline system from Canada. That pipeline was also shut down by the floods and has no ETA for reopening as they are still assessing damage (article from yesterday:  https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-still-no-timeline-to-reopen-crucial-trans-mountain-pipeline-after-bc/ )

So I could see there being some temporary scarcity of refined petroleum products (gasoline, diesel, heating oil) in western Washington, and perhaps eastern Washington and even down to Portland or Salem. But it's not like they're 100% out, so DONT PANIC!!!! (lol)

OTOH, if you heat your home with heating oil and live in the region, you might want to fill up for the winter ASAP, though.

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Chihuahua-Pacifico Chepe

Sumas Prairie

The former BC Hydro Railway now known as Southern Railway of BC rolls right through this flooded area, their mainline in Huntingdon just over the border from Sumas is at ground level so I'm not sure how much damage it has taken. Further east a few kilometers it's way above ground level so I'm assuming that stretch is fine.

I sure wish I had seen the Crows Nest line in operation, what a stretch of railroad that was. Fortunately for the Albertans who were smart enough to get their jab won't be stranded, they can fly home and by next week it looks like the Crows Nest highway will be open so those that aren't jabbed can drive back. It's going to be a long time until the Coquihalla is open for sure.

"Chepe" Lopez-Mateos

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