robertw144

I am at the point on my layout where it is time to make trees. The modeled season is early November and the setting is central Connecticut. I model the New Haven RR in 1948. I've used a photo backdrop and I would like the trees to match that same look and feel.

There are many fall scenes out there. The best I've come across is Tom Johnson's former layout. I know that Tom used SuperTrees, Sage Brush and other organic weeds he found locally when he lived in the mid-west. I know that he used the Scenic Express Super Leaf product. There are several threads where he talks about the trees and I think I read them all. However, I still have some questions.

I would like a little more information about the leaves themselves. Tom, did you mix the leaves for a custom blend? If so what were the ratios? Were there certain colors you used or others you stayed a way from? I understand the technique. I just need to get a better understanding for the recipe, if you will.

Tom, If you are reading this, I promise I will not waste your time if you respond.

 

Robert Gross

Orlando, FL

Robert Gross

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duckdogger

SuperLeaf

I am not familiar with Mr. Johnson's  efforts but I employ similar materials in making trees for both my own railroad and the Texas Northern Model Railroad club. Another valuable resource on YouTube are instructional tree videos by Luke Towan.

My current project involves natural Sage Brush, fine ground foam, and SuperLeaf. As almost all trees (with obvious exceptions such as Birch, Aspen, Crepe Myrtle, Palo Verde, (and a few others), the grey bark of the sage pieces eliminate the need for painting. I then remove any extraneous sage branches (small, misshapen, broken stubs, etc.). Larger pieces can be shortened if needed for your application. I trim any rough areas at the bottom main trunk with a fine toothed hobby saw and then drill a suitable diameter hole in the bottom to insert an 18 or 19 gauge wire brad (after removing the head with a cutter) for mounting on the railroad. I use Gorilla Gel to secure the pin to the trunk

The initial step is selecting the proper limb pieces from the SuperTree to build the branch structure I am seeking. I collect a group and insert them into floral foam for painting with a cheap aerosol light grey. Primers can also work but many are too dark, in my opinion.

I start at the top of the sage brush armature as it is easier to progress down the trunk or branch moving downward. I attach the SuperTree pieces using Aileen's Tacky glue as it sets quickly, While it is curing, I hold the branch in position with very small alligator clips. (I also use an Aileen's spray adhesive. I have also used Elmers spray adhesive but prefer the Aileen's)

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After the tree has the desired shape and branch density, I apply the spray adhesive from about 12 inches. I use multiple light coats in combination with light layers of SuperLeaf.  My preference is to put the leaf material in a small bowl and  use my fingers to apply the leaf. A suitable sized sifter could also work but I prefer to control the flow. When done, I remove any leaf material from the branches and trunk using an #11 Xacto blade using very light pressure in a dragging motion. 

 

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robertw144

Thank you for the reply

I like your tutorial about your tree assembly. You have some techniques that I plan to apply to my trees. 

Can you provide a little more information about the leaves themselves? I am modeling the early fall. I have seen lots of trees modeled in this season that look too vibrant. Tom Johnson nailed it and I would like to know what that recipe is or one just like it.

Do you mix the leaves for a custom blend? If so what are your ratios? Were there certain colors you used or others you stayed a way from? Do you start with medium green then layer the yellow and orange colors on top?.

Also, once the fall trees are completed can they be airbrushed to dull down the vibrancy?

 

Robert Gross

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duckdogger

@robert gross

Right now, I am only able to find medium green SuperLeaf locally or even on the web. Not saying there are not other stores which have yellows, browns, etc. in stock but I have no idea of how to find them aside from web searching the bigger stores.

Mixing colors is a matter of specific need or personal preference. I use photos as my guide be it scenery or weathering. I am reluctant to mix the SuperLeaf with fine ground foam as the textures do not always emulate nature.

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duckdogger

@robert gross

Creating a "how to" blog entry. Should be posted soon.

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TomJohnson
Robert Gross,
Hello!  I don't look here very much but I know I should be.  I plan on coming back here soon and start a new blog.  I'm just getting around to it slowly because of time spent building my new layout (done now!) and doing other things here in Florida.  I used mostly Scenic Express Super Trees and some of the Sage Brush trees with Super Trees attached.  I used the various colors of Scenic Express Super Leaf leaf flake foliage.  I tried to stay away from the bright colors and also did lots of blending.  A lot of my trees are partially green.  Trees change color pretty much from the outside edges and at the top first.  So, I use more medium greens at the bottoms and more yellows and other fall colors at the top.  I also apply some color on the outside edges with the inside portions of the trees green.  I don't like dark green.  I use medium green and sometimes light green.  Some of the Super Leaf I like using are as follows.  Light green.  Medium green. Aspen Yellow (a bit bright but works OK).  Fall Leaf.  Red Oak Tone.  Rawhide.  Leaf Litter for old leaves on the ground.  I use the other colors mentioned on the ground too as fresh fallen leaves.  Scenic Express also has a Rusty Orange.  It's OK in spots but I try and stay away from bright orange.  I see more yellows, reds, and orangish yellows than pure orange.  I also like using some flocked turf material from Scenic Express.  I use the fine Flock and Turf.  In this category, I like the Autumn Gold Fine,  Red Autumn Fine,  Burnt Orange Fine, and Aspen Yellow Fine.  They have a nice Autumn Glory Blend and Early Autumn Blend but they only come in course and I don't like it.  You might want to still check them out.  The colors are very nice!  If they did them in fine turf, they might be a good choice.  I think duckdogger did a great job explaining things and follow his directions too.  

Tom Johnson
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