Why this mistake and effort

i got a good deal on this estate purchase, and I guess i overlooked the 4-6-2 verses 4-8-2 designation. makes me think I need some new glasses.

Anyway I am a mild fan of C&O (probably because of John Glabb and Howard Zane)). And I was happy to find that C&O was fond of these Pacifics. So now I need to try and make this thing look like a 'beefy' C&O loco.

Maybe I need to get this book
https://railroadcatalog.com/products/co-heavy-pacific-locomotives

Perhaps I need a vandy tender as well

https://riverraisinmodels.com/c&oPacifics/C&O%20F-19%20Flyer-2019.pdf

 

Wiseman Brass Parts

There's a guy/company called Wiseman on eBay that sells brass HO details. Fortunately, the unique appearance of a C&O engine can usually be recreated just by moving the bell, headlight, 2 air pumps, and Elesco feedwater heater to the smokebox.

Thanks Juxen

I'll look him up. I have to go back thru some of my parts as well, as I know i have some brass (and plastic) flying pumps. Not to sure about those feedwater heaters, I think they are rather hard to come by.

I may even have a extra vandy tender by backmann.

I had been collecting parts for a C&O  H7 in case no manufacture would ever do one.

Funny thing is I am now recalling that an older gentleman was trying to sell me a brass F-19 many years ago at the Timonium Great Scale Trainshow. I now remember I loved the looks of that loco, but at that time I had pretty much decided that brass was not in price range, nor in my desire for carefree running trains, not just display pieces.

BLI Pacific

The BLI Pacific's are USRA versions. While the C&O had many 4-6-2's, the only USRA versions they had were the F-20's purchased used from the RF&P. The Erie model can be kit-bashed into a very credible version of the F-20.  This shows the changes required to do this:

Elesco Feedwater Heater

I looked up the Wiseman site and found this image
https://wisemanmodelservices.com/HO-HOn3-PFM-PIA-ELESCO-FEEDWATER-HEATER?search=feedwater

That doesn't seem to match what I thought I was looking for??

Greenway product

Expensive Feedwater Heater

https://www.shapeways.com/product/ARQ45UYA9/3-4-quot-scale-elesco-feed-water-heater-bundle

Does a 3d printer plastic part need to cost this much?

If one has brass feedwater heater, ...and some flying pumps like seen on many C&O locos,..is there another source where they might get them duplicated for a reasonable price??

...

The part minimum on Shapeways is $7.50 and that part is for 3/4" scale...so it's a bit too big for your locomotive.

FW Heater

Brian,

Your link leads to a 3/4" scale FW Heater, you want Ho scale!

I didn't notice that it took

I didn't notice that it took me to another size/scale. ( i just quickly thought 3/4" long)

And I thought I saw a price of something like $34 dollars. (I went back to my link and saw a price of $39.45)

Perhaps I should revisit the eye doctor...ha...ha

For this project you may want

For this project you may want to go to their website.  They have their catalog so you can download

it to your computer.  They make these castings and many others in most scales for loco's and

cars and can help you get the right size heater, pumps, piping and other parts as well.  Their price list

is a separate list which you can view when you are ready to build!  Just be sure you get the right scale!

BLI Pacific 4-6-2 for Pacific or Mountain

 I have a brand new Broadway Ltd Heavy Pacific 4-6-2, ERIE that I would like to trade even up for any other Broadway road name with a vandy tender or a C&O with a rectangular tender.

Good luck

1 for 1 trade, there's a thought. Maybe you can find someone with equally poor eyesight who bought a C&O 4-8-2 when what they wanted was an Erie 4-6-2.

Good luck with that.

Can that not be made with some plastruct tubing?

I’d be scratch building the feed water heater. I just did a quick hunt for drawings for a 3/4”, 1” or 1 1/2” scale live steam version.
I googled " drawings feedwater heater live steam".  Very first hit is for an Elesco! and even has some drawings:

http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?t=96616

Thought there might be a simpler drawing of one in Greenly’s model engineering book but no joy.  Perhaps not yet invented when that was published in 1915.  Lol.

The 4-6-2 is a wonderful engine, and if I recall, your curves were not huge radius, so unless the 4-8-2 has blind drivers it may present some challenges.  One of my favourite live steamers is the Little Engines 4-6-2.  One gets a sense of just how massive the prototype was running one.

I'm sure a 4-8-2 will show up online eventually.

Elesco Feedwater Heater

Thanks for that reference,...good info and drawings

kitbash

Some thoughts about the idea  of a kitbash,...
1) I'm a vandy tender fan, and with a number of them being used by C&O, I thought if I were to go to the efforts of modifying an existing stock engine, why not start with one that utilized a vandy tender

2) Or perhaps a stock engine that utilized a larger rectangular tender than the Erie model has.

3) I wonder what the detectable differences are in the 'light' and 'heavy' Pacific BLI models are?

I don't see where BLI modeled many (any) heavy Mountains.

I would likely stick with the 4-6-2 pacific idea, as I have a few of the very nice Bachmann  4-8-2's, and I also have a number of the Mehano mountains,...in other words I have lots of Mountains, and only this one Pacific.

Wish I had bought more of those very nice Bachmann vanderbilt tenders.

Some parts I have collected

Some parts I have collected up over the years for a C&O H7 kitbash idea,..

https://forum.mrhmag.com/post/co-h7-loco-ho-scale-in-modern-plastic-12207503

Wonder if some copies of these could be 'printed out' without have to resort to programing in drawings, etc? can't some of these modern day printers make a direct copy??

Vanderbilts on EBay

https://www.ebay.ca/sch/Model-Railroads-Trains-/180250/i.html?_nkw=vanderbilt+tender&_sop=2

this is the best one out there,..in plastic

Bachmann Spectrum

Sound & DCC install

May have to visit this video for work on this loco,..