AzBaja

California,  would be my starting location "George Barris"  year is around 1970...?

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ernie176

Raiders Coach

There is a Face Book page for it.

https://www.facebook.com/Raiders-Coach-590185517718634/?ref=page_internal

Hope this helps

Ernie

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Janet N

Facebook page for the vehicle

Claims it was built in 1968.  Apparently, it was destroyed around 1980 to use some of the parts in a "dice car" made to look like a casino exhibit.

Facebook page can be found searching for "Raiders coach" and it has one more railroad related photo.

Hope this helps.

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AzBaja

Not talking about the

Not talking about the Car/couch,  I know what it is,  Trying to figure out the location of those two items in the background...  Just saying

Station is a clue,   

Again more than likely in CA,  

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Janet N

Checking their concert tour might give a clue

I googled the Raiders' concert history; between 1968 and 1973, they had 66 concert dates in the US.  Nothing in California, but a number in Utah, Texas, and Arizona.  Given the mix of electric interurban, steam locomotive, and the flat, somewhat featureless terrain behind the car,  I'll take a wild guess the photo might be in front of some exhibit at the Arizona state fair?  The windows in the station suggest it's a modern recreation/remodeling rather than something used as a movie set.

Otherwise, probably a search on George Barris's history in 68-70 might turn something up.

Janet N.

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blindog10

Knott's berry farm?

That was my first guess.  Just a SWAG.

Scott Chatfield

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AzBaja

"George Barris" who built the

"George Barris" who built the car is from CA,  the car would not go on tour, and from what I read it was a pain to drive, more like a static display.

Featureless background could be do to facing the ocean.  

Does that Trolley/Interurban look like any thing that Ran on the Pacific Electric etc. Looks rather close to me anyway

I still think this is some place in Califonia around the LA area.  

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AzBaja

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bdhicks

Bob Owen's Whistle Stop Museum

I found a higher resolution picture and could manage to make out the number on the interurban as 7556, and searching for "interurban 7556" got me to this picture:

https://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=630505

From the description: "This photo was taken at BOB OWEN'S WHISTLE STOP MUSEUM.. Bob purchased the former Washington, Michigan GRAND TRUNK station. He operated a sign painting business in the freight section of the station and turned the waiting room into a museum. Out in back he installed a short length of track. He acquired a caboose and painted it with a GRAND TRUNK logo. He owned a CHICAGO, NORTH SHORE & MILWAUKEE Interurban with the no. 7556 which he put ahead of the caboose. He picked up a partially scrapped locomotive in Canada and turned it into the non-operating steam engine pictured here. After Bob's death the Interurban was traded by the Michigan Transit Museum for a SOUTH SHORE CAR."

-Brian
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AzBaja

Winner

We have the clues that say it was here, Now need to locate the place where they are now.  Have some good clues, just need to find them on google maps

The poles fit.  The liquor store looks like that station.  I was just looking in the way wrong location.

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fmilhaupt

The engine, now

The engine is now on display at the Shelby Township, Michigan, municipal offices, with a former Pere Marquette caboose. That's about four miles dues south of Bob Owen's old museum location, along Van Dyke Road.

There is a recent photo and a history of the display at https://shelbyhistory.tripod.com/id84.html . The link also includes a few remarks on Bob Owen's museum.

 

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AzBaja

Found it on the Map

Found it on the Map -  https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6815015,-83.0304528,3a,15y,265.16h,89.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1si-TWZidn9TkRWm2mZ4Mt1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

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ernie176

Where is it now

I would guess it still exists.  If so I suspect its number may have been changed, because I didn't find it using the link below. 

Which most likely means that:

1 its number was/has been changed

2 it no longer exists

I know the author of this search engine and have asked for his assistance.

http://www.bera.org/pnaerc.html

As to its number it looks like the Chicago North Shore and Milwaukee didn't have any equipment in the 7000 series.

Once in the search link click the line for Chicago North Shore and Milwaukee in the "previously owned by" box then click "submit query" at the bottom.  This will give you a list of surviving Chicago North Shore and Milwaukee equipment.

My 2 cents worth is that it is Chicago North Shore and Milwaukee 761

Have fun

Ernie

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ernie176

761 picture

Pic from http://www.bera.org/pnaerc.html

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bdhicks

More locomotive information

https://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1471 has some more information on the locomotive.  Be sure to check out the Notes and Ownership links.  Sounds like Bob Owens was very enthusiastic about trains but not about historical accuracy.

 

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ernie176

761 location confirmation

Here is some additional data. 

Standard Chicago North Shore & Milwaukee steel coach, was at Michigan Transit Museum but recently bought by East Troy Electric RR, being worked on at East Troy; body is pretty rough; at Michigan Transit Museum by 1977, previously owned by Bob Owen, before that owned by Cadillac & Lake City

East Troy roster

https://www.easttroyrr.org/car-roster.html

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AzBaja

https://www.facebook.com/Firs

https://www.facebook.com/FirstFastest/

http://www.bera.org/cgi-bin/pnaerc.pl?detail=564

Even Bernie can't wait for CNS 761 to get restored at East Troy. He'll just have to wait until warmer weather this summer.

 

 

 

 

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Janet N

Wow. Fast turnaround time here.

Thanks for sharing the final pieces of the puzzle with us. I have to say, it's pretty impressive that from the initial "Where is it?" post to the final "Here it is." was just under 48 hours.

Janet N.

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AzBaja

The part that got me was the

The part that got me was the Numbers on both the engine and Trolley were non standard and not showing up.  I do enjoy the puzzle.  I do the same thing when I see a pinball machine in a TV show.  The other thing is in TV shows and Movies the pinball sounds is always chimes no mater what the game and if it is an arcade game the sound used most often is the Atari 2600 Pac-Man sound from the home game.  On most every arcade game no mater what the game is.

It would be the same as have Steam sound playing out of AC4400.  It is just wrong

This is a Pinball Machine used in Star Trek Voyager by Q.  It is a fake.

It is in reality a FIREPOWER,  I just happen to have one in my collection

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