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Cement Plant traffic
Mon, 2011-01-31 10:20 — chesticus
Hello all.
I am going to modeling the cement factory in Monolith California, and I have run into a slight road blok. I am looking for what type of rail traffic would support the plant. I was wondering where to look for this information.
If you have any thoughts I would really appreciate it.
Jim
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depends on era prior to the
depends on era
prior to the mid 1950's bulk dry cement would be hauled in gondolas with removable round containers...after that cement was hauled in covered hoppers like the ACF "Air-slide"....so lines of "shorty" covered hoppers with an occasional boxcar or flatcar with "machinery" would fit nicely for anythng modeled after 1955
Agent K&L Rwy
Enfield MI
There's a book for that!
Model Railroader's Guide to Industries along the Tracks 3 covers the cement industry. I recommend seeing if you can find a copy at your LHS to page through and make sure it's what you need - you can see the first part of the Cement chapter here: http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-22106725251441/12422spread.pdf
As I understand it, many (most?) cement plants are located near enough to limestone quarries that they can have the raw limestone conveyored in. I don't know what else they might receive.
Modern railroads ship the finished product in shorty two-bay covered hoppers.
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Jeff Shultz
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Model Railroad Hobbyist Technical Assistant
Cement Plant Traffic Possibilities
A lot would depend on where the raw materials were coming from; as Jeff said the plants were often located near a source of at least one main ingredient. Having said that here is roughly how things work at my local cement mill:
Inputs included:
The out puts is cement of course: most of which was bagged and loaded into boxcars until the arrival (in Canada) of large numbers covered hoppers in the late '50s.
Brian S
www.albertamodeltrains.ca
Monolith Plant
The cement plant at Monolith is a well-known industry to railfans and historians of the Tehachapi area. There should be one or more Yahoo groups devoted to the SP/UP where you can find someone with specific knowledge of that plant and its traffic.
There are several contemporary photos of the plant at the rrpicturearchives site http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locThumbs.aspx?id=15917, at least one showing typical modern 100+ ton two-bay covered hoppers, plus open hoppers. I'm not sure about Monolith, but some other plants that receive coal in open hoppers can ship "clinker" cement in the same cars for processing elsewhere.
Rob Spangler
Continental Cement
CC in Hannibal Mo. burns solid waste and tires to heat kiln.Both of those come in via truck but only because they are within a 100 miles.Some use coal to heat kiln that could be brought in by rail.
Poor people do things in poor ways
Era?
Are you wanting to model the present plant traffic or an different era?
Seems like there are a few
Seems like there are a few photos and perhaps some info in John Signor's Tehachapi. I'll see if I can find the info. Again, depends what time frame you're looking to model. The original quarry was to the south - there was a narrow gauge railroad that ran from the quarry underneath the mainline and into the plant. Later, the narrow gauge was pulled up and moved to the limestone deposits above (behind the plant.) It (the narrow gauge) operated until the early 70's when the current conveyor system was installed.
Some of my Railroad Photos
I love this site
Tons of info and possibilities.
Eventually I will be sttling in on somewhere during 1942 to 1945 as far as time period goes.
I already have Signors "tehachepi." Great resource.
Thanks for all the tips guys.
Jim
Yahoo group
Here is another site worth looking into: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cementbeltrr/
Stogie
there is a Concrete plant
there is a Concrete plant near me that is supported by rail. They get Iron ore loads from the CN. I see about 10 short high sided hopper cars parked on one of the spur tracks. They bring in the sand with end dump trucks and lime with bulk semi trailers. they mix the stuff and haul out wet cement in cement trucks. This is not a packaging plant just wet cement.
Trent