jeffshultz

Apparently James Joyce wasn't a model railroader...

The weather finally cleared up enough here for me to go outside and play with noxious substances like spray paint and spray glue... I made two types of trees, both based on the basic SuperTrees armature available from Scenic Express.

The first used a fine leaf foilage product produced by Noch - I think you can get it at Scenic Express, or I know you can order it from Walthers through your LHS ( http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/528-7167):

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It's really a different look from the standard ground foam - which I also made several of, using a combination of Scenic Express and Woodland Scenics ground foams, and a sprinkling of the fine leaf foilage as well, which may or may not have worked all that well, color-wise. A mixture of both trees is seen here:

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Which would I choose? I honestly am not sure - the fine leaf foliage looks really good - but doesn't produce as "bushy" a tree as the ground foam. It's also, on a per-tree basis, quite a bit more expensive.

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Jeff Shultz - MRH Technical Assistant
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Modeling a fictional GWI shortline combining three separate areas into one freelance-ish railroad.

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JLandT Railroad

They look very familiar Jeff...

Hey Jeff,

Great job on the trees, they are exactly the same as the ones that I have made for the module.  Like you I'm very happy with the Noch Fine Leaf foliage for trees, I actually got mine with the Super Trees starter kit.  I have to agree with you about the difference between the ground foam and the fine leaf too.

I have tried using the ground foam and the fine leaf and have had some fairly good results.  It is amazing how quickly you can have a the local flora up and running using the combination that you have.

Here is my version of the same:

I have to ask what combination of spray paint & spray glue did you use?  Mine where purely done with Matt Medium.
 

Cheers,

Jas...

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Scarpia

Use both

I think you should use both, Jeff. One thing about nature (IMHO) is the wide variety of texture and color, having some trees with the fine leaf and others with flock helps re-create that.

Here's a shot from my old chainsaw - not a great example, but there are supertrees here with both of the materials you used mixed in.

What I might suggest though is preparing the supertree armeture differently for each - maybe paint one a lighter shade of gray for the Noch fine leaf, and a darker color for the ground foam? 

Other than using both on the same tree (which I wouldn't recommend), I think what you've done so far looks great.


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bear creek

Joyce Kilmer

Jeff,

If you were thinking about the poem - I think that I will never see, a poem lovely as a tree... it was written by Joyce Kilmer, not James Joyce...

Nice job on those trees dude!

Charlie

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JLandT Railroad

Maybe not a good example comparing the mentioned trees...

 Scapia,

That is one extremely fine example of a wooded scene!  I can't wait to see you current layout when it gets to this stage.  Very inspirational......

Cheers,

Jas..

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jeffshultz

Joyce Kilmer....

Ooops.

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Jeff Shultz - MRH Technical Assistant
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Geared

Very nice trees

Jeff, those trees look great.

I haven't used the materials that you have used, but a mix is always good. Even here on the wet coast of Vancouver Island the variety is tremendous. Many modellers just "plant" evergreens, of various types, to simulate west coast forests, but there are deciduous trees here as well. The most dominate species are the Broad Leaf Maple and the Red Alder. They can cover whole sides of mountains. Alders are usually the first species to take hold after an area has been cut. Both are also dominate in gulleys and stream beds, or along the river banks and road edges. Black Cherry is less common as is the Arbutus which tends to grow on the drier east side of the Island, as does the Gary Oak. Chestnut trees are common in urban areas and in valleys. Of course in the towns and cities other species have been introduced and a modeller can pretty much have free reign in these areas.

The reason I say this is that when your different "types" have been planted you'll notice that they blend together well. For me the key is variety in foliage, species and height, especially younger trees along the edges of forested areas.

Roy

Roy

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jeffshultz

Spray paint, glue and hair spray....

Jas,

I used 4 different colors of spray paint, all Rust-o-leum brand (it's what Home Depot has). This, quite frankly, is a learning experience and experiment.

Based on a couple of tutorials on this (including Joe's) I had automotive primer gray and black enamel, and then I went for the "textured spray paints" in white and "mult-color" (but with a definite dark brown lean), I probably used the gray the least.

The Spray Glue was 3M "Super 77", mainly because I have a couple cans of it lying around. I finished them off with Aqua-Net Extra Super Hold hair spray.

 

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Jeff Shultz - MRH Technical Assistant
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Modeling a fictional GWI shortline combining three separate areas into one freelance-ish railroad.

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BillObenauf

trees

Hey Jeff-

Have you checked out Darryl Huffman's Tree making DVD?  It's pretty good.  Runs about 2 hours long and has some interesting techniques.  I saw one on ebay for $20.

 

Bill

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Russ Bellinis

Looking good, Jeff.

Iwould suggest using the more expensive trees in the front of the forrest with the ore dense ones behind to give thikness to your forrest.  You might put simple foam "blobs" in th every back to make your forrest really thick.  I noticed when I was in upstate New York about 40 years ago, that you could not see much more than 10 feet or less into a forrest back there.  In Southern California, you can almost count the trees and even then they tell us that our forrests have about 10 times as many trees as the climate will support!

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jeffshultz

Tree density

Actually, I won't have any real "forests" simply because they don't quite exist like that in the mid-Willamette Valley. Lots of single trees here and there, lots of small groves, but nothing on the scale of the evergreen covered mountains.

Thank goodness.

My trees will be placed as singles & doubles with a few "clumps" here and there - particularly in corners I think.

 

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