Ken Rice

It's taken me far too long but I've finally narrowed in on what I really want out of this layout and have worked out a plan which I think I'll find fun and satisfying.

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Ken Rice

The Eastborough Industrial

The track plan:

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The layout represents the end of a freelanced industrial track - one of those tracks that branches off the main and winds a couple miles or so serving a few industries that seem to be more common than you might at first think.  I've selected the industries to give me a mix of car types, car flows, and switching.  The industries are all cribbed from real prototype industries in eastern Massachusetts, with varying degrees of modeler's license.

Why Eastborough?  Eastborough is not a real town in Massachusetts, but it could be.  There is a cluster of -borough's that includes Marlborough, Northborough, Westborough, and Southborough, but no Eastborough.  So, the name Eastborough sounds plausible and for those familiar with the area makes you think of where it's imagined to be - somewhere near where routes 495 and 95 cross.  The CSX mainline (formerly Boston & Albany) runs through Westborough, and the Fitchburg branch runs through Southborough, Marlborough, and Northborough.  The Grafton & Upton shortline is nearby.

I haven't really decided for sure what railroad will do the switching.  A plausible case could be made for CSX, perhaps the Grafton & Upton, or a fictional shortline.

Operation

At the start of a session, a train is made up in staging with the engine on the front end, ready to pull the train onto the layout.  Train length can be anywhere from just a couple cars to a couple dozen cars, although somewhere around a dozen will probably be typical.  The runaround that should be mostly adequate, but which will require a couple runaround moves to deal with the largest sessions.  There are no tricks or switching puzzles, just some decent sized industries with a variety of needs.

The Industries

Trans Plastics

The biggest industry in terms of car count is Trans Plastics, lifted straight off my N scale Palmer Industrial Park plan, which was in turn lifted pretty much straight from the prototype Palmer Industrial Park.  The prototype industry went out of business over 10 years ago unfortunately - smaller plastic transload operations seem to have difficulty.  But I like the big plastic pellet hoppers and the car flow pattern and switching that creates so I'm modeling it anyway.  Normally the industry will be mostly full, but like the prototype will only receive and release 1-4 cars a week.  Cars are emptied apparently randomly since they get emptied by demand for what grade of plastic they contain.  Spots are stuffed in wherever they fit, placement is not important.

National Lumber

National Lumber is cribbed from National Lumber on "The Chocolate" - an industrial park spur in Mansfield, MA.  I like the large warehouse with the track only along half of it, and the two door spots on the warehouse, and the fact that the centerbeam unloading area is past the warehouse.  I "improved" on reality to have 3 centerbeam spots instead of just one.  There will be times when centerbeams are cycled through at a good clip, and times when there's no center beams and only a single boxcar at the warehouse.  Cars will almost always be unloaded before the next switch, so there will rarely be respots.

Tighe

There are a three rail served Tighe warehouses in eastern Massachusetts - Mansfield, Winchester, and Woburn.  I plan on cribbing the building appearance from the Mansfield warehouse, which has 9 doors spaced on 77 foot centers.  I'll keep the spacing and general appearance, but trim it to 8 spots.  There are rain diverters on the roof, which makes it easy to measure the spacing on a satellite photo, and which will make it easy to line the boxcar doors up with the warehouse doors on the model.  This warehouse will take more switching moves per car to get the job done than the other industries.  Each car will be billed to a specific door spot.  Not all cars will be unloaded by the next session, so there will be some re-spots.

Broco Oil

Broco oil is inspired by the prototype Broco Oil in Haverhill MA which just started receiving biodiesel heating oil about a year ago and has been ramping up considerably, adding track, a trackmobile, new storage tanks, etc.  My representation of it will need to make do with a single shorter track, but it's long enough to give a good feel of an active business.  Since they only receive only B99.9 biodiesel tank cars are simply unloaded sequentially.  The empties will always be at one end of the track, the respots (if any) at the other.  Broco Oil will be easy to switch, but should allow for moving nice long cuts of tank cars in the process.  Biodiesel tank cars are hazardous, with a 1202 placard, so there will be placement considerations getting ready to run back to staging.

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StevenJWoodward

Ken Rice

Hi Ken,

I've been waiting to see your plans come together! The track plan and concept are great, it will be fun to watch your progress.

Any plans for an interchange track, or will staging serve that purpose?

Steve W

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Ken Rice

Staging / Interchange

Steve, no on layout interchange, whatever happens happens in staging.  In practice that will be a bit of between session shuffling from either a storage track in staging, or off layout storage.

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blindog10

Sounds similar to mine

Both Georgia-Pacific and Sprenger Lumber on my abuilding Sioux Falls Terminal get both boxcars and flat cars.  In both cases the flats are unloaded in paved areas beyond the building where the boxcars are spotted.  The real G-P can get three 60' boxes and two flats.  Sprenger can get two 60' boxes and two flats.  The flats at both companies have to be spotted at least 20 feet past the building and with 20 feet between each flat to provide easy access for the forklifts.  So your lumber yard is not unusual.

I only have enough room on my layout's version of G-P for a building with two dock doors and one flat past the building.  And my version of Spenger is reversed, with the flats before the building, again for space reasons.

In both cases all the cars are unloaded before the empties are released, so the whole track is pulled.  In the spring and summer it isn't uncommon for both companies to be switched every day.

The company at "Tank Farm" on my layout got asphalt on one track and liquid fertilizer and speciality fuels on the other, with each holding nine tanks in the real world and five on mine.  I've added a spot for two propane tanks at the end of the fertilizer track.

At Tank Farm the tracks were almost always full with off spots held in the yard downtown.  Individual empties could be released so the place was switched most weekdays.  About ten years ago this outfit moved about 10 miles northeast of Sioux Falls and the line to Tank Farm was pulled up.  I model circa 1989-1994.

There are two outfits on the northside of Sioux Falls that use plastic pellets.  I only model one of them because they use a greater variety, and 30 years ago they only had room for four hoppers.  Ten or so hoppers were held off spot downtown and switching out partially empty cars for ones with different pellets was common.

And that only covers four of the twelve customers on the layout.  The five south of downtown are worked by the morning job and the other seven by the afternoon job.

Scott Chatfield

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Ken Rice

A nice selection

Scott, sounds like you’ve got a nice selection of industries on your layout.  The remote storage you mention definitely adds operating interest.  Its something I wanted to work in but couldn’t quite fit without making things too crowded.

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Deemiorgos

Very nice Ken, That min 32

Very nice Ken,

That min 32 radius will look good.

Not crowded nor cramped.

What rolling stock do you have so far?

 

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blindog10

Almost too crowded

My plan is a little more crowded than I'd like, but I'll live with it.  Sioux Falls isn't that big a town, so the industrial areas were crowded.  (Still are.)  My version of the downtown yard is about 80% the size of the real yard it represents, but it has to handle all the work in town when in reality there were three small yards in town.  If I later decide to stretch the layout around the basement more, I might include another yard that was mostly used for off spots.  Or I might just use the extra length to increase the distance between the industrial areas.  We'll see.

In your case, it sounds like you're modeling a  branchline that is a bit out in the woods by Massachusetts standards.  So you need more space between the customers to give that out-in-the-burbs feel.

Scott Chatfield

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On30guy

I like it Ken

A nice simple, uncrowded, well thought out plan.

I could easily see wiling away an hour, or so, shuffling cars around.

Rick Reimer,

President, Ruphe and Tumbelle Railway Co.

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Ken Rice

Thanks guys

Deemiorgos - So far I have  few boxcars, plastic pellet cars, and centerbeams, and one MP15.

Scott - There are a lot of industrial areas like that in Massachusetts - on the edge of towns and smaller cities, with woods around.  These days there aren’t many industries left actually in cities.

Rick - Yup, I’m hoping for op sessions that last half an hour to an hour, depending on how many cars need to be moved.

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Bessemer Bob

Copy Right (c)

Ken you might have to put a copy right on that one, looks really tempting! 

Think before you post, try to be positive, and you do not always have to give your  opinion……

Steel Mill Modelers SIG, it’s a blast(furnace)!

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David Husman dave1905

Plan

Its a nice modern plan.

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JD.Hill

Great Plan!

Love your plan Ken. Reminds me a lot of East Penn Railway's

 and Bay Colony's

A designated operator using a worn BCLR or Quaboag Transfer GP might look pretty sharp!

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(Photo from  http://www.railfanreading.com/layout/prototype/BC1703/BC1703.htm)

Merry Christmas,

Jack

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Ken Rice

Thanks!

Thanks guys, it's reassuring to know the plan looks good to others not just me.

Bob - hey if you want to copy bits of it or all of it go for it.  Sharing ideas is one of the reasons we post these things.

Dave - yup the time period is over a century later than yours

Jack - I've read about the East Penn but never visited in person.  I have checked out the Millis branch in person, and glimpsed the Quaboag 1701 hiding in the trees on the runaround in the Palmer industrial park.  Haven't been to either location for a few years though.  I knew the 1701 had been sold off somewhere, but I didn't realize it was the East Penn.  Neat!  The Millis branch has recently had some repairs and brush clearing after a long period of disuse and there are rumors of a transformer move and perhaps even Tresca transloading there again.  Both the Quaboag and BCLR are neat paint schemes on neat diesels for sure.

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PeteM

Excellent design Ken!

This is exactly my kind of layout!     I bet you'll need at least an hour, maybe two, to make all the moves, derails, chocks/blue flags, open and close any gates etc. Works for one person or a 2-man crew.   Perfect! 

Pete

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Ken Rice

Thanks Pete

If it takes more than an hour when I'm operating by myself I'll probably spit the session across several evenings.  I haven't operated with all the trimmings before but I do plan to add them where appropriate.  Derails on all the sidings of course.  The only one that has a fence/gate is National Lumber, and only around the lot not around the warehouse.  I need to look into where a railroad crew would actually likely encounter a blue flag and request it's removal, as opposed to the industry having removed it already knowing the railroad would be switching.

Two man crews should be fun when I have a couple friends over, that's something I've done in the past and it's worked out well.

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Craig Townsend

Blue flags and crews

Ken,

You asked about blue flags. Typically the customer will release the cars and remove any blue flags before the railroad crew shows up but sometimes they either forget or the railroad gets there and they aren't done yet 

 

I would say any of the industries are open for random "call and have blue flag removed" type situations but more likely it would be the lumber or the plastic places. Sometimes it's as simple as the company has 1 shift of workers and the railroad works the best shift ( swing vs day's) so they remove the flags before closing up shop. Other industries are 24/7 so they keep working until the crew gets there. Being on the end of a branchline, they probably don't know exactly when the railroad be will show up.  Maybe the crew has a "light" day and they get there 6 hours ahead of normal times. Or 6 hours late.

 

Does that help?

Craig

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Thomas Klimoski

Excellent plan

Excellent plan Ken. I can see a regular operating session lasting over an hour on your layout. On my Georgia Northeastern layout I have a local switch job for the area of Marietta which has 7 industries available to be switched. Not every industry is switched during an ops session with the average being 5 of the 7 industries being serviced. Local trains are typically 6 to 8 cars with approximately the same number of cars being pulled. Working this one job takes over an hour for most crews.

I really like how realistic the plan appears with plenty of open spaces between the industries. It would be the perfect candidate for a freelanced short line operation. There are so many neat short lines around that almost no one has every heard of so it would be easy to come up with your own line. Many thought my Georgia Northeastern was freelanced until I showed them a prototype photo. It also gives you a chance to run some classic geeps, what could be better than that. 

As Craig mentioned, normally blue flags are removed before a crew arrives, but there are exceptions. Even when the blue flag is removed by the industry personnel, it is required that the railroad crew perform an inspection to assure the car is ready to be moved. All of this takes time and is easy to replicate during an ops session by just thinking about what a prototype crew would be doing. 

Again, I think you have a great plan and would not recommend any changes. I look forward to following your progress.

Thomas Klimoski

Modeling the Georgia Northeastern Railroad   

 

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Ken Rice

Thanks guys

On the blue flags, thanks guys that makes sense.  Sounds like a fun occasional extra wrinkle to the ops.

Thomas, I guess since I’m freelancing pretty much everything else, freelancing the shortline too makes sense.  It would give me a bit more freedom in choosing power and paint scheme.  It’s also good to know your thoughts on how long a session will be confirms what I’m hoping for.

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milesevad

I’m glad you don’t mind others copying

Hi Ken,

Thank you for sharing your track plan. I have nearly the same space for a layout - only real difference is the width of my room is 11ft - and have been thinking of the same concept of the end of a modern industrial park branch. Just from my home town I can choose from placing either a paper mill, sand mine, or chemical company at the end. Unfortunately the paper mill shut down around 2012 or so and was recently torn down, and the sand mine ceased operation last year. But either one can live on in my basement.  
 

Time to think on that...

Dave

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Ken Rice

Copy away

Dave, as they say imitation is the sincerest form of flatery.  By all means copy whatever you find useful!  That sounds like an interesting mix of industries.

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ackislander

A real Christmas present!

Thank you, Ken, for a wonderful Christmas present!  I got another model railroad present, Lance Mindheim’s “Model Railroading as an Art.”  The two mesh nicely. 
 

I have just torn down much of my “Mid-sized and Unmanageable” in a similar-sized space in order to replace the oil tank.  The replacement layout will be much like what you are planning, set in a different place (York County, Maine) in a different era (1957ish).  Fiddling the staging in the next room has worked well, but I am aiming for fewer and simpler tracks serving larger industries.   
 

I will follow you with interest. Just do it!
 

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Ken Rice

York County

York County in the 50’s should have plenty of raw material to plan a nice indutrial layout from.  Have fun with that!

The next steps for me are clearing out the lingering pile of stuff I still haven’t unpacked after moving, and then making sure I have a plan for anything that involves house wiring.  I need to be sure I either get it done before building the layout onto the walls, or make provisions for removing sections that will be in the way for an eletrician.  The biggest problem is a light switch on the wall at pretty much exactly the height of the benchwork framing for the height I think I want the layout at (48”).  And that switch is one that I’m pretty sure will need to have a bit of rewiring to get the lights the way I want them.  Hopefully getting those details planned out enough to proceed won’t take too long.

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