rsparker

I’m thinking about doing a layout in the flavor of Erie’s 28th street yard on Manhattan but I’m unsure of the turnout size. I’ll be doing this in N scale with Peco turnouts. I a, assuming there would be there medium size turnouts and not the smaller ST ones. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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ctxmf74

Erie’s 28th street yard

The Phil Goldstein website has lots of info and photos of this terminal. Looks like a great plan for a medium sized prototypically correct layout . The yard is about 770' long by 200' wide or about 5 feet long in N scale by 1.5 feet wide. Double the length to include the float bridge and water for a car float and add a bit of width for adjacent city scenery and it appears a 10 foot by 3 foot N layout could be pretty much prototype true. There are some track plan and site maps on the website that could be either scaled to get the turnout sizes or maybe just blown up to N scale size and used as track plan templates. It's rare and very handy to have so much info for a proposed layout, not much more info or research time would be needed to start building.....DaveB

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peter-f

re: 28 Street facility - Erie RR

Some of the old warehouses still stand at the southern end of Penn Station's yard.  If you find street views of the High Line, it loops around the Penn Sta. yards, and parallels 28 Street before turning down 9th Avenue.   This may still serve as a visual reference for the surrounding buildings of the Erie yard.  Erie had its HQ at the western end of 23rd St., I believe so the yard was just north of their HQ/Opera House (yes, Opera House) ... details in the book Men of Erie  / Hungerford.

- regards

Peter

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rsparker

@ctxmf74

That site is such a joy to have online. I have spaent several hours getting lost on it. I was thinking around 5 feet which is perfect for a table I have. Now to make it work with commercial turnouts.....

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dehanley

Turnout size

Given the tight quarters of the space the prototype most likely had #8 turnouts. 

The key is to layout the trackwork with templates and see what works.  A good source for templates is  https://www.handlaidtrack.com/track-templates.   

Have fun

Don Hanley

Proto-lancing a fictitious Erie branch line.

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ctxmf74

  "Given the tight quarters

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"Given the tight quarters of the space the prototype most likely had #8 turnouts."

These New York pocket terminal often had sharper curves and turnouts than most railroad yards. They were mostly built around the turn of the century when 30 foot cars were still common. The Harlem Transfer had #3 turnouts for example. I think scaling the track plan at Goldstein's site would give a pretty close approimation of the curves and turnouts.....DaveB

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