Engie_#1487

Hello everyone,

 This is my first post, and decided to join the forums after hearing about the magazine. I am a beginner in the hobby after my interest was rejuvenated so I am starting out by assembling model freight car kits and figuring out where to go next.

 A project idea I have in mind I wish to do, once I get enough scale modelling experience, is to create my own fleet of Canadian National Heritage units using modern HO scale diesels. My choice of HO locomotive to use, are the HO scale ScaleTrains rivet counter line of Canadian National Tier 4 Gevo ET44ACs, as they are the most detailed CN Tier 4 in HO scale, although I do like the realistic break chain and brighter lighting on Intermountain version, so I could consider both makes. Neither manufacturer offered undecorated versions of their HO ET44AC with CN details, so I will have to strip the paint off carefully of the body and other details do I can paint over them.

I want to use the fourth run of CN Tier 4s (being the basic website livery with road numbers #3002 and #3029. I don't want to use the ones with the CN centennial or aboriginal decals, as that's just fine decal work I have to strip off as well) as not only do that have the front & rear headlights, along with the rear and back ditch lights with CN specific marker lights, but the new run now has side walkway lighting and ground lights for the engine trucks. 

Now, do the previous runs of CN Tier 4s have the same side walkway and ground lighting? If not I could learn how to add them myself, but I am worried that with placing led lights properly, wiring to the decoder and programming the two lighting functions, soldering and drilling I might become frustrated, so to avoid that, I could just stick to the fourth run with those lights installed.

 What do you all think? Stick with the run with all lighting attached to avoid frustration? Or learn how to attach new lights? I do hope to see what you all have to say.

 

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James Willmus JamesWillmus

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First, welcome to the forum!  It's a shame no one else stepped in to answer your questions, but it is something very specific that not a lot of people can answer.

Anyways, if I were you, I'd do whatever takes the least amount of work.  Model railroading is a wonderful hobby with a million niches, so there's something for everyone.  For beginners, I would recommend doing whatever takes the least amount of work to accomplish your goal.  In this instance, that means sticking with engines that have the lighting and other features that you want already installed.  If you plan on making a CN heritage fleet, there's going to be plenty of time at the workbench spent repainting, re-lettering, and possibly weathering every unit.

If you can find undecorated units, go with those.  They aren't the most advertised, but almost every manufacturer makes some units that have no paint or lettering from the factory.  That would save you time in prepping the model for your custom paint work.

You might also want to consider practicing your painting skills on cheap freight cars.  Once you do a few of those, you'll be ready to tackle locomotives.  Not only would you have a heritage fleet, but then you'd have a train of custom cars to pull behind those engines!

Good luck on your project and I hope all works out for you!

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James Willmus

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ctxmf74

 "What do you all think?

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"What do you all think? Stick with the run with all lighting attached to avoid frustration? Or learn how to attach new lights? "

I think it depends on your modeling interests and what direction you want your modeling to take. Are you more interested in fine detailing engines or would you rather get a layout up and running first? There's only so many modeling hours per week so you'll need to decide how you want to spend your hours. Personally I find the fine lighting installations to be touchy and frustrating so I try to buy engines ready to go with what I want already in them. This is often a compromise between ideal and good enough but that's what the whole hobby is if you really think about it. Now if you enjoy the finer points of DCC/lighting installation I'd certainly learn how to do it as any skill learned will come in handy down the modeling road some day.....DaveB

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Engie_#1487

Hello James, Thanks for

Hello James,

Thanks for replying, I do appreciate it. ScaleTrains unfortunately does not offer undecorated rivet counter versions of their CN specific Tier 4 gevo, so I will have to carefully learn how to strip the paint off it and the details and reply. However I do enjoy looking for undecorated models. I do like the SD40-2 high hood Southern version with snowplows they did, so I'mm looking for an undecorated version of those.

You are right about practicing on repainting inexpensive equipment, which I intend to do to build up my skill set. I have a plan to super detail these CNR Mehano made locomotives I have that came in the PC Choice train sets. Those freight cars will be a perfect start.

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Engie_#1487

Hi Dave, Regarding What You Said...

At the moment, my biggest priority is learning how to decals, paint, disassemble, reassemble, adding finer details etc. Building a layout isn't my biggest priority at the moment, and with my mind all over the place I need to figure out what truly interests me, and what rolling stock and locomotives I want to collect that interests me.

I feel as I put more effort into my modelling skills, I will gain the now how to add complicated lighting, like inner lighted of dials and computer systems. I learned about adding these details when I was watching this video by NSmodeler24, on their custom locomotive roaster. I do appreciate your impute.



 

 

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