joef

Okay, here's a sampler of our new "Adaptive" PDF format we're moving to starting in July. While it's basically a portrait PDF, it's got adaptive coding in it that tries to display it as landscape (two facing pages) on-the-fly if your screen is wide enough.

Try it out and let us know how it works for you.

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P.S. If you're on a PC, Mac, or Linux and you want to explore using a comic book reader (they don't show a seam), then give  YACReader a try. However, that's a bit techy and it may have a bug or two, so you're on your own there.

Joe Fugate​
Publisher, Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine

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Jwmutter

Not good in iBooks

I read MRH exclusively on my iPad in a landscape orientation.  This displays one page at a time, in reduced size, in iBooks.  The old landscape edition displayed two pages at a time — much more convenient, especially if you have illustrations spanning two pages.

Jeff Mutter, Severna Park, MD

Http://ELScrantonDivision.railfan.net

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Downloaded to iBooks

I read the magazine on my iPhone 11 plus. This worked fine and scrolls seamlessly through the pages. The option to download to iBooks to save and read by flipping pages instead of scrolling. There doesn’t seem to be an option for two page view. The ability to see a two page spread or layout plan would be nice. 

Neil Erickson, Hawai’i 

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Jackh

What I Got

Clicked on the read now and got a single page with directions on how to read it with different computer programs. I'm using a lap top with windows 10. Did the save as and was not able to go any further in reading the ballasting article. 

So all I got was the article title page and directions. If there is more I am totally clueless in how to access it.

mostly computer illiterate, Jack

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Janet N

Doesn't display properly in Chrome

The new format doesn't display in 2-page format in Chrome, even though either of my two desktop monitors have plenty of real estate. Even with the file downloaded to my Windows 10 system, it no longer opens properly in Chrome.  It does display properly if downloaded and opened in Sumatra PDF.  Don't use Acrobat, nor have any Adobe stuff on my systems.  Firefox does display it in 2-page spreads, but I rarely ever use that.  Firefox is not my browser nor PDF reader of choice.

Illustrations that span two pages are, obviously, not viewable in their entirety on-line any more in Chrome. The current layout is readable in a 2-page spread on-line within Chrome, either on-line or downloaded and viewed in PDF format.

New version doesn't work to display 2-page spreads within Chrome on my Windows 8.1 tablet either on-line or when saved to the tablet and opened later.  And the tablet is used exclusively in landscape orientation because it attaches to a clamshell keyboard, which is much more convenient than stabbing at an unyielding surface with a fingertip repeatedly.

Not very convenient to read, even if it saves time in production.

Janet N.

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George Sinos gsinos

SideBooks, the FREE app, on

SideBooks, the FREE app, on the iPad works fine. But I’m sure that’s why you recommended it for the iPad. 

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jeffshultz

Downloaded to Win10

Opened it in the free Foxit Reader and it came up in side-by-side mode without any intervention on my part. 

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ctxmf74

New version?

How will the changes affect the read online option( for those who never download the magazine?) .....DaveB

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Alco_nut

I like to older version

I do not like this format, its hard to read, I tried Sidebooks and it was harder to read, you get one page at a time and have to zoom in to read it. I use Foxit on my tablet and I only get one page at a time which makes it harder to read than the prior format, with the old format I get two pages and dont have to zoom in to read.

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engineer

A step back

I'm not happy with it. I have a MacBook and in "Preview" there are a lot of problems, with Acrobat Reader it's a little bit better. But since my monitor is landscape and not portrait I prefer landscape.

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Rick Sutton

feedback

Mac OS 10.14.1.     Safari 12.01.1       24" monitor

 

Straight download opened in browser. Option download was sent to downloads....but when opened was only single page in Preview. Changed Preview settings to display two pages but still stayed single.

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ajcaptain

Feedback

Android tablet with SideBooks works fine.

John C

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NCR-Boomer

Chromium error

The browsers I use are built off Chromium (Opera, Vivaldi), and in both, the document opens single-page vertical scrolling.  Adobe Acrobat Reader DC did open it in adaptive side-by-side, but the "barker" page threw off the demo by accident (set Acrobat to "Show Cover Page in 2-Page View", the layout plan 2-page ended up split across 'page turns').  Turned that off, document displayed as you described.

Firefox.  This requires a picture:

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Call it "side-by-side scroll".  Two abreast, stacked for vertical scrolling.  Interesting, not exactly what I expected.

 

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joef

Mac preview

Yes, Mac Preview is a problem because it's not too savvy when it comes to facing pages. It also seems to have a few rendering problems with the PDF. So a couple check boxes on the PDF rendering created a preview-friendly Mac version. Visit the download page again and try the Mac version. I can see where this is headed, however. I'm now getting back to multiple versions again. I just thought of a compromise position. If I just go to a Portrait cover, I can still render a landscape and a portrait PDF. I no longer need to create multiple masters like I do now, which is where the pain is. Thanks for bearing with me as I sort all this out. Let me think through this some more and propose a beta 2 for you all to try.

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AzBaja

Like the Full wide screen much better than this scrolling

Like the Full wide screen much better than this scrolling eye chart. But it does not matter what I think.  Sucks to not use over 2/3 of the desktop in grey.  

 

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joef

Online edition

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How will the changes affect the read online option( for those who never download the magazine?) .....DaveB

Absolutely zipo zero change since we already use the portrait version to generate the online edition. The online display viewer already adapts smartly to screen size, so no change.

Joe Fugate​
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fecbill

I have an HP laptop

running Windows 10. When I downloaded the sample it opened in single page. I did a save as, like I do for MRH RE, and when I opened the saved version it displayed pages side by side. 

Bill Michael

Florida East Coast Railway fan

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Jwmutter

That works for me

Joe wrote: ”If I just go to a Portrait cover, I can still render a landscape and a portrait PDF. I no longer need to create multiple masters like I do now, which is where the pain is.”  

That would be fine with me.  Sounds like a good compromise.

Jeff Mutter, Severna Park, MD

Http://ELScrantonDivision.railfan.net

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Rick Sutton

Latest feedback

Works. two pages side by side. Still have to do command/download. Also don't know if this was part of the test but the track plan is split between two "sets" of pages. Disregard the blue highlight.....my bad when taking screenshot._42%20PM.png _53%20PM.png 

 

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Mark Pruitt Pruitt

It worked fine in Acrobat on

It worked fine in Acrobat on Windows 10 in Read Mode.

It did not work in Full Screen Mode, which I prefer to use because it maximizes the image size and eliminates all the clutter of the top and side bars. In full screen mode all I get is one portrait page at a time though.

I can live with read mode.

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Also don't know if this was part of the test but the track plan is split between two "sets" of pages. 

That's interesting, Rick. When I opened it I got the track plan on one screen, spread across both pages. 

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biggazza

Downloaded and viewing now

Clicked on the trial download and it opened straight away in double page mode in Acrobat Reader DC on Windows 10.

Gary.

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JC Shall

Firefox and Acrobat Reader DC

Using Windows 10, the pages displayed two up in Firefox.  I downloaded the file, and it opens two up using Acrobat Reader DC.  However, when using Full Screen mode with Acrobat, it reverts to a single page as Mark reported above.  Like him, I prefer the Full Screen view as it gives maximum page size, and eliminates the clutter along top and sides.

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glenng6

Mac OS 10.15.5 Safari

Mac OS 10.15.5

Safari 13.1.1

Opened the Mac pdf version in Safari and it was single page, continuous scroll. I checked the options and that is what it was set for. I switched to two page (side/side) and it worked fine. Although, as pointed out earlier there is a lot of wasted screen space.

I then opened it in Preview and it was continuous scroll and zoom to fit. I switched to two page and it displayed fine, without the wasted screen space. Glenn

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smadanek

Windows with Chrome worked Firefox did not

I use both windows 10 Chrome and Firefox. I didn't get a preview in Firefox and have no idea where the download went. Chrome put it in my downloads folder as I can't get it to prompt for destination folder and I cut and pasted it into my usual MRH saved edition folders. Opened with Acrobat reader in 2 page format which was what I wanted. Not quite as readable as the landscape but it costs much less than my other paid subscription which is to BRM. I usually download to an old Samsung 10.5 inch tablet as well for in bed and potty time reading. Have not tried that device yet.

If you haven't looked at the electronic version of British Railway Modeling recently, please do check it out. From an electronic publication media viewpoint they are now a bit slicker than MRH. Andy Young and company put out an excellent product but it is somewhat like MR in that it always seems aimed at the new hobbyist. But I satisfy my ultimate modeling reading death wish with a copy of the Model Railway Journal mailed from England every other month. And they follow the Wild Swan way and will never be electronic.

Ken Adams
Walnut Creek, California
Getting too old to  remember all this stuff.... Now Officially a COG (and I've forgotten what that means too...)
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MLee

Results - Win10 64 - Acer Laptop

Chrome - one page scroll down.  Content OK.  A tough way to go.

Firefox - two pages with line in middle.  Content OK.  I can put up with the line.

 

Mike Lee

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