The EAF Quantum - New

The EAF Quantum - New Electric Steelmaking

Animation of GreenField

Animation of GreenField Project in Algeria

Surprised that no one else

Surprised that no one else found these very well done videos of interest,...whether modeling steel or not.

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Having been on this forum for many years, plus observation guided by intelligent thinking has brought me to the conclusion that this subject is of little interest to modelers that are more interested in weathering their models and are also mainly interested in large layouts, plus operations. This leads me to believe there is zero to little interest in steel making on this forum.

Bernd

Relevance

Hi,

well, I agree with both of you - this is very relevant and at the same time not at all...

Yes, it is relevant because we want to model what happens in a steel work, in a coal mine, ...

No, it is not relevant, because other than a different mix of car loads it is not "on the layout"...

From what I've personally seen on the forum, most steel industry modelling is about how it was some decades ago. The modern industries I've seen modeled are - often - intermodal or big-box-industries. Some tank or silo may be involved. Very little "ornate" things like the steel industry used to be some decades ago (and what makes modelling it interesting). And - in a way - the electric steel-making is rather unspectacular and can be done in a big-box-industry. Or in a converted "old-time" steel mill which results in a model of the "old thing" just with a different mix of cars...

Does that make some kind of sense?

Have fun!

Not sure what you are looking for here................

When I looked at the views of this topic this morning, it had 239 views.  You posted a link to animation of an automated electric furnace.  While interesting (I watched both of them), I didn't see anything that sparked any real need for a comment.  It was great knowledge to be shared, but there wasn't much here unless a person really gets into the nuiances of steel making (which I sort of do).  I DO appreciate your posting the link. 

Electric furnace technology has been around for a long time, and was first used in this country to manufacture "specialty" steels (highly alloyed, tool, and stainless).  From a modeling perspective, I'm more interested in what went into, and out of the plant.  Not many of us want to dedicate the room necessary to model a steel mill.  Those that do, really embrace the idea.  A lot of people into steel mill modeling belong to the Steel Mill SIG.  Like all special subsets of model railroading, you will get more interest from like minded people on a Groups IO site. I spend a lot more time reading Groups IO sites that interest me than I do here.  

I have a steel mill on my layout, but strictly model it as a "big box" industry, only being concerned with what goes in (one unit train per day of iron, five days per week, cars of metalurgical coal, limestone, misc mill supplies), and steel products out (along with some "excess coke" that we ship down to CF&I in Pueblo CO).  The mill is more of a traffic generator for my railroad (yes, I am primarily interested in operations).

Here is a recent shot of train #15, the North Coast Hiawatha, sitting in the siding while the superior train, Train #4, the Southwestern Star, passed by on the main.  The location is in Bessemer ID, the date was August 12, 1952.  The steel mill is in the background.  This was a timetabled meet. 

The idea for incorporating the mill into my layout was the USS facility in Provo UT, which was a WWII plant initially built to support the war effort.  I just moved my version north. 

Regards,

Jerry  

Really?

Thanks for thinking for me. I don't model steel mainly because I don't have the space but find it interesting and enjoyed the videos. Would have missed out if the OP'er hadn't found them and shared.

Varied interest

I love steel mills and what goes on and about them. For modeling Steel Mills I belong to a FB group, Steel Mill Modeling. That is a group that continuously shows their modeling, talks about ideas and is a supportive group to new modelers of Steel Mills. Do I model steel mills, not at this time as I model Paper Mills. Judge interest on MRH by viewership not replies. There are also some authors of threads That while I read what they have to write I have mostly no interest in replying to them.

Tom

Thanks for those interesting

Thanks for those interesting replies. I just thought it remains interesting what great number of subjects model railroaders take up. I do agree that steel making can take up toooo much room on our oft too small layouts.

I don’t have a specific interest in steel mills.

The main interest for me is what you said about raw materials in, Steel out. My area has limestone, iron ore was north across the county border and coal is 30 miles or so north. Where I live is the mostly rural space between a number of major cities,   
between the suburbs of Philadelphia and Baltimore. 
There are major consumers of steel here, High Steel (bridge and skyscraper I beams) and New Holland( tractors and farm equipment).