AndreChapelon

It’s downright amazing what you can find if you look hard enough. There is someone out there who has the basic printings, courtesy of Shapeways, to make an HO scale Reading T-1 4-8-4 if you’re so inclined. There’s even a gearbox cover printing available, although you’ll have to supply your own gears, not to mention motor, wheels, rods, valve gear, etc. All this for the grand total of $567.22 without shipping. My recommendation for drivers is Greenway. At $20/ea, a set of appropriate 70” drivers will set you back $80, again without shipping. Greenway can also supply other wheels, but I haven’t priced them out. My estimate of the total cost of this project is around $875-900 if you want DCC and sound and somewhere between $750-775 if you don’t. Of course, you could always just spring for BLI’s latest offering, which is substantially cheaper even at MSRP, but where’s the fun in that?

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/tim-s-3d-prints

Before any accusations start to fly, let me make some things clear. I’m not questioning the guy’s pricing. Nor do I think that he’s greedily trying to empty your wallet to enrich himself. Just from what I can make out from the pics, the stuff the gentleman offers looks pretty good. Actually, that chassis might make a good start toward a NC&StL J-3, a Cotton Belt L-1/SP GS-8 or a D&RGW M-64. I’m also not calling into question the whole “crowd sourced” steam locomotive idea, although I would opine that the concept is best reserved for producing items that either don’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of ever being commercially produced (e.g. Rene Gourley’s 4-4-0, Adrian Gunzburg’s Western Australian U class 4-6-2) or are at least unlikely to be commercially produced (e.g. any locomotive used by the Maine Central other than its 6 USRA light Mikes).

Well, anyway, the challenge is out there for anybody who wants to use Shapeways available parts to build a 70” driver 4-8-4. It doesn’t have to be a Reading T-1. Other options were mentioned above.

As usual, writing things down leads to other ideas. Rather than a crowd sourced steam locomotive, how about some printed parts like cabs, tenders (like, oh, I don’t know, maybe an SP 90R-1 or a 73SC-1). Some Harriman style cylinders for 2-8-0’s/4-6-0’s would be nice. It would make converting a  Bachmann 2-8-0 into an SP C-8/9/10 approach “piece of cake” mode. I might even be motivated to part with some cash for a 3D printed version of SP’s parlor car “Oliver Millett”.

I didn’t want to step in the “crowd sourced” thread, which is why I posted this (partially) tongue-in-cheek challenge. However, it does occur to me that available commercial chassis might be a reasonable starting point for something else. For instance, the USRA light 4-6-2 chassis would be a reasonable starting point for an NKP or MEC 4-6-4 or even to cobble together a  model of MEC 470, currently undergoing restoration.  https://m.facebook.com/MCSL470Restore/   

The Reading T-1 chassis options were mentioned earlier. It also might be nice if there were a Harriman boiler and cab to fit on the USRA Mikado chassis. Then there’s the NYC/NKP H-5, which has only been done in brass. Both the Harriman and H-5 boilers were essentially cylindrical, IIRC. The real question is how close in diameter were the two? I can supply dimensions from the Harriman, if someone else has info on the H-5. If they’re fairly close, it would be a twofer, and only different cabs would be needed.

and, to crown their disgraceful proceedings and add insult to injury, they threw me over the Niagara Falls, and I got wet.

From Mark Twain's short story "Niagara"

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AndreChapelon

NYC H-5 vs. Harriman 2-8-2

Relevant data I’m missing relative to the H-5, of which there were multiple subclasses is the smokebox diameter and the boiler diameter. However, when comparing pictures of H-5’s vs. their Harriman counterparts leads me to believe that general boiler dimensions were pretty close. As a matter of fact, multiple sub classes of the H-5 and the SP MK-5/6 classes, for which I have dimensional, are essentially identical in overall weight. The H-5 and the Harrimans have an identical rigid wheelbase. The total engine wheelbase (pilot axle center to trailing axle center) are extremely close at 35’ 2” for the Harriman and 35’ 3” for the H-5. Data for the SP engines is from an SP locomotive diagram book I have, whereas data for the H-5 comes from steamlocomotive.com, which unfortunately does not include boiler dimensions. 

The biggest discrepancy between the H-5 and the Harriman is the grate area. The H-5 had a grate area of 56.5 sq. ft., whereas the Harriman’s is 70.3. Steamlocomotive.com doesn’t give the actual firebox dimensions, whereas the SP diagram book does for the Harriman. I’m not sure how much of a visual discrepancy that would translate to, if any. With respect to a useable chassis, the USRA Mikes have an overall wheelbase of approximately 1 extra foot. This would be spread over roughly 36 scale feet and really shouldn’t be much of an issue. Hiding 3.5 mm in a 126 mm run should be fairly easy.

Mike

and, to crown their disgraceful proceedings and add insult to injury, they threw me over the Niagara Falls, and I got wet.

From Mark Twain's short story "Niagara"

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