Thanks, Al

Thanks, Al, for posting this layout.  As soon as I saw it, I recognized it.  My little layout (the first shelf style one) in college was liberally based on this.  The page in my copy of Westcott's book is well dog-eared here.

You're absolutely right:  what's not to love about this plan.

It's just enough modeling to keep you active when you have little space and a little budget.  The shelf layout was propped up vertically against the wall during the week, and sat on the bed or on the floor when in use.

Al ... this is from a Kalmbach book, right?

Al, this is from a Kalmbach book,right? This material is copyright Kalmbach and can't be legally posted without permission from Kalmbach. Do you have their permission - and if so, you should put "Copyright Kalmbach, posted with permission from Kalmbach Publishing".

Otherwise, we need to remove this post ... sorry to be such a stickler about this, but copyright violations are serious stuff.

All legal issues aside...

It's funny how things evolve over time.

The Port Ogden & Northern was also a favorite of mine but for completely different reasons:  it was one of my all-time favorite routes in Microsoft Train Simulator.  I never knew it originated as a model railroad.  Thanks for sharing!

~rb

copyright

Joe,

What Al imaged is identical to what is on a page of my copy of Westcott's book (except that mine is black and white, no color) :  copyright by Kalmbach Publishing 1957.

Copyright

Joe,

I got this image from a software program which seems to have gotten copyrights for the 101 book. When you buy the software, you can load any of the 101 layouts into it. Then I printed it and posted it here.

Do you think I need copyright permission from the software company.

I have no problem with you removing it if you still think it needs permission to be posted.

Thanks,

Al

Yes you need permission to

Yes you need permission to Post this because you bought it for your personal use and not for the whole world so you are in violation of copy right laws sos you need to remove the pictures or we will have to as MRH did not receive permission to post this on the internet even if MRH were to buy this book or CD we couldn't post these photos with out a license to broadcast it over then internet. When you buy a product that is copy righted and post it on the internet without written permission from the original publisher you are committing a felony. That could cost you and MRH more money thay you wish to think about not to mention Jail time.

Dan

 P.S. You can save your blog if you click Edit on your blog page then right click the middle of the track plans and press Delete.

you can then post the name of the book or CD it is in and the page number or photo number but that is all except you could redraw the track plan with some changes less the color and names and remove some tracks to make it clear copy right.

Al, let's do this ...

Okay, Al, let's do this ...

Edit your post to say at the bottom:

Image from [name of software program] - for more info see of software company

Image from Kalmbach book [title] and is copyright Kalmbach, Inc. For more info see of book on Kalmbach site.

In the meantime, I will contact Kalmbach to figure out what the official policy is for this sort of thing - doesn't sound real clear.

Al, let's do this ...

Thanks Joe. All done.

Again, if you need to remove the image, I have no problem with that.

Al

I just posted a link to this thread . . .

on another ( model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/7384). The user there was looking for a semi-room filling HO layout for his Climax. I mentioned that this would work nicely, with the upper end track curving over the yard and head off to mining or timbering.

Of course, the 16 foot length in HO could be mitigated by curving the layout at the yard throat and bringing the upper level along with that curve.

Almost like the Gumstump and Snowshoe

but more complex of course.  The nice thing about that little layout, and might be true of yours as well, is that it was based on a combination of several real 19th Century place names and RR names.  So maybe with some fine tuning (Suggest Wikipedia) you might be able to recast the Port Ogden in a way where all the component parts are in the public domain.

One of those cases where the truth is even more exciting than fiction.

Good luck.