YoHo

Hey all, so the crowd sourced steam engine thread got me thinking. Does anyone have any examples of rewheeling old steam locomotives with the referenced driver sets?

My googlefu turned up a thread on Model Railroader where Darth Santa Fe (who regularly posts his examples of rebuilt older steam.) redid a Rivarrosi Dreyfuss Hudson, but I was hoping for some more examples. In particular he glosses over issues with the rods binding.

I know most responses to this are just going to be to buy new product, but I've got a series of older locos that I've set aside as science projects just for the fun of doing the work and am wondering if I'm just asking the wrong questions of google.

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dwtrains

Suggestions for re-wheel Steam Locomotives

I have some experience in steam locomotive driver replacement. I re-gear and replace drivers on discontinued Bowser steam locomotives.

 

Take a look at the following for ideas and help:

Mark Schutzer has some presentations on rebuilding brass locomotives.

http://schutzer.net/index.htm

TSG Multimedia has a YouTube video showing use of the NWSL Puller to replace a driver on an axle.

Green Ways has a good selection of parts for brass Steam Locomotives, including a fair selection of drivers

If you are serious about pulling replacing locomotive drivers you should get a NorthWest Shortline Puller and Quarterer II while they are still available.

The Quarterer is what you need to eliminate drive rod binding.

If you can not find a good source of new axle bearings, new bearings can be made out of brass tubing.

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YoHo

That actually begs a

That actually begs a question.

I've been asked to get a quarterer for the club. we already have a puller.

 

Is the Quarter 2 worth the price premium?

 

 

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dwilliam1963

A reasonable price....

Essential to accurately quarter drivers, American-made, and will last forever if cared for properly.,  Not a premium price for an indispensable tool. 

Peace, Bill

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YoHo

Actually, I didn't post the

Actually, I didn't post the entire question.

Is the quarterer 2 worth the price premium over the Original?

It's a $100 difference. The Original Quarterer is only $40. this would be for HO and MAYBE N, but most likely just HO.

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dwilliam1963

Sorry...

I have a Quarterer original, can't speak to the 2.....perhaps someone on here could illuminate the difference and/or let you try one.  The original works fine by me.

Peace, Bill

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dwtrains

Quaterer I vs Quaterer II

I have both. The I version is all plastic. The II is all metal.

They both work, but I like metal over the plastic. The Quarterer I has been in a drawer for a long time.

 

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peter-f

For those who wonder what all this is about...

There's a 30 minute video...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjv4vKhh6HhAhUkc98KHaHeA28QwqsBMAB6BAgJEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DnuwjUZCSB2Y&usg=AOvVaw20E1lhWZmREzC_LF5SdtMc

Features James May (of BBC's old Top Gear reputation) and shows him spending time reconstructing his Hornby locomotive.  Yes, it glosses over a few details, but shows much of the labor (labour?) of assembling this thing.   To people familiar with this, he delivers a bit of good assembly detail in the first half, and rambles on thereafter... 

(don't miss the 'sound box', -about 20 minutes in-  not a precursor to sound DCC, but an amusing detail, for sure!)

All in all, a pretty documentary.

 

- regards

Peter

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lexon

NWSL items

Back in the late 1970's I bought those items and the gear and motor planing items when NWSL sold them in Seattle. I built some gear boxes using the MDC intermediate gears. 45 t0 1 and 72 to 1. Great gear arraignments. Allowed the motor to be horizontal in a steamer. I did the driver gears also. 

Sagami motors at the time. 1620 and a small open frame with skewed armature and flywheel were really nice.

I know I have said this before.

A dial caliper was a great help.

The tools made it real easy. I had use of a drill press to put the parts back together when required.

i found it interesting that they sold reverse worms and reverse worm gears. I never needed them.

I really hope this company does not go away. They have an amazing selection of parts. I have bought a lot over the years.

Rich

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