Tar Sands Oil clean up

My concern is that this 'tar sands oil', and skimmers and that technology will NOT be able to clean it all up.

Dangerous transport

We all like trains, this is a wonderful hobby.

But we forget, trains transport include a lot of extremely hazardous and dangerous products.

We forget often these trains don't only transport box, container, perishables or coal but also dangerous products.

We also forget these freight trains, with hazardous products roll throught quiet populated country, this is a situation not often debate but real.

Fortunately trains deraillements or railway accidents were rare, besides the number of trains in daily movements.

Skimmers

I took part in skimming operations in Russia in the 90s. It was very effective if caught early. If left all the fines evaporate and you are left with all the sludge. I am sure tecnology has improved greatly. This does not take care of the residue that is left on the shore or the bottom of river or waterbody. Maybe if Trump has his way this might not happen again. Needless to say this is a disaster.

Same wreck from a

Same wreck from a Drone

Didn't look like the water was moving much

Hopefully that will assist with cleanup.

What makes tar sands oil any different from other oils?

Let's keep this focused on Model Railroading please....

I come to MRH to de-compress and for the enjoyment of our hobby. I can go to other sites for political discussion if my blood-pressure needs to be adjusted. Let's keep politics out of it please.....

Thanks!

Skimmers not needed.  from

Skimmers not needed.  from what I understand this is fields and not a water way that flooded up onto the tracks.  Train hit the water and derailed.  When the water drops they will bring in earth movers and scrape the earth off the top of the field.

This from what I can tell is

This from what I can tell is the location.  

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2598891,-96.2363045,3a,75y,101.91h,84.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9xOjZ-Wppgvh13EiuSmNAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Doon,+IA+51235/@43.2592631,-96.2351563,411m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x878c3d2967738ee3:0xc9772e2330b6a730!8m2!3d43.2794231!4d-96.2328025

I agree, Paul. Having worked

I agree, Paul.

Having worked as a railroader...derailments happen all the time, every day, on every railroad. Some small and some big. All you need is for the rails to spread more than normal gauge and the wheels drop off. Not generally, a big thing.

Qualty folks with lots of training and machinery will fix everything up and put it back like it was.

Barry 

Tar sands oil

Jeff, The tars sands oil is too thick to send down the pipe so it is refined to a point it can be piped down to you. So if any thing it will be easier to clean up. 

Tar sands Oil is NOT

Tar Sands Oil is NOT refined before it leaves Canada. In fact that is what I suggested of what we require Canada to do BEFORE putting it 'on our soil', or in any pipeline crossing our country, ...particularly near any major aquifer

5 Years Since Massive Tar Sands Oil Spill, Kalamazoo River Still Not Clean
https://www.ecowatch.com/5-years-since-massive-tar-sands-oil-spill-kalamazoo-river-still-not-cl-1882075674.html

May be just a big field, but the reports call it a river,...

Tar Sands Oil

Call it what you will, it is modifyed, processed so it can be pumped into tankcars or put in pipelines. As I said before after the fines have evaporated you are left with heavy sludge. This will float for awhile untill it gets heavy enough and sinks. This is not just another Ho HUM derailment. Yes things do happen and life goes on but things get changed  ever so slightly they are never the same. I have seen a country that has changed areas forever. Some of the problem is technolgy, some is just the way things are done, and some a lack of understanding the effects things like this have on the enviroment. There was never a real hurry to clean things up. Even having a crude that is heavy in wax content the same thing happened in the end. How does Canada get blamed for this.  

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