Bessemer Bob

The Delaware & Hudson Railroad has been awarded the operating right on the Attic & Shelf Line. 

 

I am going to start my shelf switching layout based off the D&H around 1980. Wore out, dirty locomotives, but no sign of Guilford yet. 

 

I have started this thread to brain storm on the potential of the one industry layout design. Heavily leaning towards a paper mill, or possibly a cement facility. 

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Bessemer Bob

Industry Ideas

All, 

 

Looking for some help on finding the right industry for the D&H to serve on the shelf.

 

I would like to model an industry requiring a few car tyeps, I would like to do something like a paper mill. Does anybody know of a paper mill served by the D&H?

 

Thanks. 

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skiwiggy

When I get

Hi Bob, When I get home from work later I will check out the NEB&W guide book to Delaware & Hudson industries. Greg W.
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Mike Kieran

D&H Ticonderoga/Baldwin Branch

There was a paper mill in Ticonderoga on the Ticonderoga/Baldwin Branch out of Whitehall.

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Nick Santo amsnick

@ Bob

Hi Bob,

Ticonderoga also has one of the two tunnels on that branch the other is a little farther north in the Willsboro area.

Whitehall and Plattsburgh both have Yards, fyi. 

Glens Falls and Queensbury were hotbeds of industry a little farther south on the same branch.

I just happened into an unknown hobby store with numerous D&H Atlas RSs on the shelf.

Good luck on your venture!

Nick

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fishnmack

D&H Layout Ideas

Great Model Railroads Magazine issue for 2011 featured a D&H themed layout by Kip Grant named the Sunnyvale Branch.  The article was well written about this delightful pike that was short on distance to run, but full of switching opportunities.  Well worth the time to read the article and Google for more information.

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Mike Kieran

D&H Branch

You also don't have to model an actual branch. It wouldn't be the first time.

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Bessemer Bob

Paper!

Thanks everybody for the help so far.

 

Glad to hear the D&H did serve some paper mills..  I am going to use modelers license for this, but at the same time wanted this to be somewhat accurate. 

 

I am going to be modeling circa 1980. so I see International Paper had already moved out of Ticonderoga, but in my world its still off a branch line and of an older style facility!

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Nick Santo amsnick

@ Bob

Thats strange, in the 1970s the Ticonderoga mill was the largest in the world!  I was flying last weekend and I could still see the steam ploom from that mill on the horizon.  It wouldn't fit on a few freightcars unless in N scale.... ( ;> ) )

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Bessemer Bob

International Paper

Came across a good write up on the mill. 

 

Apperently the original (Ticondaroga City Limits) was slowley decomisioned while the current plant a few miles north of town was built in the 1970s. Todays mill still served by the D&H (CP) directly from the main line. 

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Grenzer47

The D&H was a great Line

Excellent basis for a switching layout. While I don’t model D&H it is certainly an attractive railway to me, particularly in the transition era. I love the sight of the early Alcos, black with yellow lettering and stripes, heading everything  from way freights to milk trains and the Montreal Limited. Steam hauled commuters into Scranton in wooden, open platform coachs riding roller bearing trucks into the early 50’s! Over on the line along Lakes George and Champlain (and Ticonderoga) beautiful 4-8-4’s were hauling the Laurentian through gorgeous scenery. Wonderful little railroad back in the day.

Barry P.

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Bessemer Bob

Corinth NY

Looks like the D&H served the paper plant in Corinth.... How can I forget, I saw this on Train Masters TV layout tour of Michel Boucher's Delaware & Hudson..

 

So thats two paper mills on the D&H... I think thats another yes vote for paper

 

This is why it pays to research and come up with a good plan before you start to buy. 

 

When I was making the switch to modeling something in HO I picked up some frieght cars before I knew exactly what I wanted.  Oh well back to Ebay they go!

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JackM

Glens Falls Branch

Before starting my current layout, non DH, I was looking at the Glen Falls Branch.  There is a video on YouTube showing them switching this branch.  I had some trouble using Google Maps figuring out where they were, but it ends up in Glen Falls switching Fitch Paper.  It looks like they also split off and switch a cement plant prior to entering town.  Obviously modeling a paper mill is a major undertaking.  I was looking at maybe using a photo backdrop as Mike C. does on the Alagash, but could not find one searching the internet.  I moved on to something else.  Still have two Alcos in DH just in case.

 

 

Jack 

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JackM

Glens Falls Branch

Before starting my current layout, non DH, I was looking at the Glen Falls Branch.  There is a video on YouTube showing them switching this branch.  I had some trouble using Google Maps figuring out where they were, but it ends up in Glen Falls switching Fitch Paper.  It looks like they also split off and switch a cement plant prior to entering town.  Obviously modeling a paper mill is a major undertaking.  I was looking at maybe using a photo backdrop as Mike C. does on the Alagash, but could not find one searching the internet.  I moved on to something else.  Still have two Alcos in DH just in case.

 

 

Jack 

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nsc409w

A little early for your era...

This is a little early for your era but the J&J Rogers paper mill operated in Au Sable Forks NY until 1971. It offers a branch line setting as the D&H operated their branch to Au Sable to serve the mill. Shane
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skiwiggy

Cement Facility Glens Falls NY on the D&H

Hi Bob,

  There was a Cement facility in Glens Falls NY.  The book I have deals with industries during the steam era but, figured I would share the photo.  Perhaps it could have lasted into the 1980's.  Box cars with bagged product could be spotted for loading while covered hoppers bring in or possibly take product out.  

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Greg W. 

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Wendell1976

Modeling a paper mill

To Bessemer Bob: I don't know too much about the Delaware & Hudson, but that is great that you are modeling a paper mill. If I had the extra space for my layout, I would model a paper mill. I live in Idaho and the largest paper mill here in the Gem State is the Clearwater Paper mill in Lewiston. There are a lot of paper mills in the Pacific Northwest(Idaho, Oregon, Washington State, and British Columbia). Wendell
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