Tom Edwards edwardstd

I seem to be unable to find a recent thread to which I wanted to add something. I posted some photos last night to the thread about simple coal unloading facilities and this morning I can't seem to find it. I tried searching for "coal" but that didn't find it either. Unfortunately I don't recall if the thread was a blog entry or a discussion entry.

Is this another case of a blog entry that was removed by it's initial author or am I just having a senior moment?

Just curious...

Tom Edwards

N scale - C&NW/M&StL - Modeling the C&NW's Alco Line

HO scale - Running on the Minnesota Central (Roundhouse Model RR Club, St. James, MN)

12" to the foot - Member of the Osceola & St. Croix Valley crew (Minnesota Transportation Museum)

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kansaspacific1

Jim Six's threads

Jim Six's CURRENT THREE threads seem to all be missing.

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Graham Line

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Mr Six has been known to blow up his own threads in the past on this and other lists.  The only people who can blow up a thread on MRH Forums are the original author, or the forum moderators.  And I'll bet it wasn't the moderators.

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p51

Hmmm...

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Mr Six has been known to blow up his own threads in the past on this and other lists.  The only people who can blow up a thread on MRH Forums are the original author, or the forum moderators.  And I'll bet it wasn't the moderators.

Yeah, he's threatened to pull the plug several times when a thread isn't going exactly where he wants it to. Looks like he did exactly that. Such a shame as a lot of great historical stuff just got lost. Lots of good info that others worked hard to find and post, just POOF.

I won't be wasting my time posting info in any of his threads in the future...

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Pelsea

Too bad...

Mr Six is an outstanding modeler and a fine writer. As far as I can tell he has always been treated respectfully here. He still has an account and is shown as "online" so maybe he will be back.

pqe

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joef

Our preference

Blog owners have more control over their threads than regular forum threads, generally. Forum threads are not owned by anyone. That said we ask that before doing mass deletes, the blog owner talk with us first before doing anything rash, to avoid this kind of thing. Sometimes people get upset and just delete things anyway on their own, which appears to be what happened here. We do hope Jim has a change of heart because he is a fantastic modeler and I’ve always appreciated his perspective on the hobby. We apologize to those of you who contributed all the great content to Jim’s threads who have had your posts deleted before any of us could weigh in.

Joe Fugate​
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Pelsea

Thread wars

So now the thread that apparently set Jim off has also been deleted. [Insert your own expression of exasperation here.]

pqe

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YoHo

I was a participant in the

I was a participant in the thread that I think caused Jim to do this.  I didn't realize he'd deleted anything beyond that one thread.

It is a shame, 

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YoHo

That thread was a restart of

That thread was a restart of his original thread. 

He had deleted his before that. 

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AzBaja

FYI: I did not delete that thread, Joe did.

"Your thread on not responding if they don't use their real name is no longer relevant because Jim Six has left the forum for good.

 
We're unpublishing your thread since the person it was aimed at is no longer here and it has lost any relevancy. 
 
— Joe Fugate, MRH"
 
Just to be clear.
I posted it as a question, do to a particaluer post, it was not about that person.  So if anyone would of posted the same thing, I would of still asked the exact same questions.  
 
 

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RandallG

Our Preference???

Sorry Joe but this is rediculous. Time to show some real leadership. Allowing someone the ability to delete all their blogs is mindboggling. So much for this site being a great resource. All the time wasted reading and commenting on those great blogs lost. WHY BOTHER COMMENTING ON ANYTHING?  Oh ya, but leave all the useless ataboy posts. Now thats a real resource you can learn something from. .......

"Our Preference" sounds like a political nothing burger. Im still shaking my head!!!  CHANGE THE FRINKIN RULES AND ACTUALLY TRY TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THIS FORUM. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pissed off Randy

 

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Jim at BSME

Any backups?

Are any backups made of the forum such that Joe as the owner you could bring back useful historic information?

I don't know what caused Jim to delete his blogs, but if there was information useful to others would think it would be nice to restore them even if the original author has no desire to continue the thread.

- Jim B.
Baltimore Society of Model Engineers, Estd. 1932
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p51

Why bother?

Joe, I get how things are configured, but when you have someone who deletes a very long thread filled with good info just because it didn't go exactly the way he wanted (the character of Sheldon Cooper from the 'Big Bang' theory TV series would love that idea), well, that kills any motivation I have to participate further. At this point, I'd just consider it 'wasting' time for something that'll be deleted later for nothing other than the odd whims of whomever started the thread.

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Allowing someone the ability to delete all their blogs is mindboggling. So much for this site being a great resource. All the time wasted reading and commenting on those great blogs lost. WHY BOTHER COMMENTING ON ANYTHING?  Oh ya, but leave all the useless ataboy posts. Now thats a real resource you can learn something from. .......

Preach on Randy! I agree 100% with you here!

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rickwade

I like Joe's suggestion

about checking with them first before removing content.  I did just the same thing on the Nextdoor blog when a post I had posted had a picture of the lady letting her dog poop on my lawn and not pick it up (a HOA rule).  I was told that the post was "hateful and embarassing" to the lady and the post was removed.  I was angry and removed all of my content from the site.  Hasty action? - perhaps.

I then printed a picture of the lady and her dog, added a "Please pick up your dog's poop" to it, enclosed it in a ziplock bag, and strapped it to my tree facing the sidewalk.  I left the sign up a week and then took it down.  For some reason now the lady does pick up her dog's poop.

I've been offended numerous times on this (and other) sites and have been tempted to remove all of my content - but then I cool down and put on my big boy pants and move on.

Rick

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RandallG

Dog poop

My mom had  a neighborhood dog that kept pooping on her yard. She collected it all up and dumped it in the dog owners mailbox early one morning. problem solved. Never happend again. (and its a good thing she didn't get caught!)

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mike horton

All is not lost,

Jim Six, by forum rules did what he felt like, for his own reasons, but, he started great dialogue  on three subjects that intertwined with each other. Most responders liked the ideas and added to the blog. So, now just restart them on your own, the subject matter he started wasn't his intellectual property, many ideas were brought on by others. The idea still remains, just open it up on your own and see where it goes. I liked his blogs and maybe he'll return.  MH

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Jackh

Back to Jim's threads

To those of you who contributed I will give a very big thankyou to. It has changed to the focus of my layout and how it is being designed. A lot of frustration has been eliminated.

THANKS,   Jack

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joef

It’s a tightrope

Ownership of content is a tightrope we walk.

If we have too much control on blogs, people won’t blog here. Jim Six told me offline he was only interested in blogging here if he could have control of his blog threads. I told him we would give him that control as long as he checked with us first before doing anything rash. Unfortunately, Jim felt otherwise and deleted his blog threads without asking.

I agree this is unfortunate but I support Jim’s right to control his own blog. If we do not allow people the right to control their own blog, they will just go elsewhere ... and if they do go elsewhere and decide one morning it’s not worth it, that other location's blog could go bye-bye as well.

Forum threads are not owned by someone and can not be deleted by anyone but us. But blog threads remain under the control of the blogger — that is a reasonable requirement to encourage blogs on the MRH site. With that comes the risk people can decide they’re done and not give any of us a chance to weigh in. Sad, but it’s a freedom that must be allowed on personal blogs.


P.S. Keep in mind people can choose to be temperamental no matter what we do. Even on forum threads, because we do allow you to edit your posts after making them (we need to allow that, obviously), people can elect to get upset and just edit all their posts to be something like three dashes: - - - and we can’t stop them (yes, that has happened). At what point do you penalize everyone’s freedom to edit their own posts to stop a few people from being temperamental?

Joe Fugate​
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rickwade

Save it!

I was just speaking to Michael Rose and he saves blogs that he finds helpful by just selecting the information and pasting it into MS Word(tm).  A good idea!

Rick

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Janet N

Wish Joe had deleted it at the start

"I Failed reading comprehension and can not spell, have limited and poorly selective reading skills, maybe I should just Google it?

The Fake Model Railroader - Providing no usable information or value to this or any conversation"

In my opinion, I think your signature accurately reflects most of your contributions on this forum.  It's one of the reasons I bypass your posts now.  They contain a great deal of snark.  A very, very high snark-to-content ratio, if you will.

Janet N.

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Chuck P

That's how this should work

Some people posted to the "using real names" thread so obviously it was an acceptable thread. You don't read it because you don't care for that poster. That's how this should work. To say that someone shouldn't post at all is wrong.

If you don't like it, don't read it but don't say no one can. I prefer snark, which I can deal with as an adult, to full out censorship.

 

HO - Western New York - 1987 era
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RandallG

If we have too much control

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If we have too much control on blogs, people won’t blog here

I don't beleive that for a split second. People don't blog here or anywhere else because they can 'own it'. They blog here because the MRH forums are a great place to be that has a lot of savy modelers to share and converse with. Sorry Joe, but its time to rethink your philosophy on this issue. Protect the resources. If people want to go somewhere else. let em go. They will find that they are not going to get the readership, responses and input they get here. Quit being scared about people going elsewhere. Losing great blogs like these lost ones, give more people more reason to go somewhere else to read.

WOW!

Randy

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joef

Some people just like to push buttons

Some people just like to push other people’s buttons ... and we all do it to some degree now and then. We try to walk the middle and keep moderation on here to a minimum. As long as people play nice and stick to talking primarily about trains, were good. Once in a great while we will step in and take control, but not very often. These kind of incidents are rare on here, but they do happen. Sometimes things take a very unfortunate turn as they did in this case. We can’t always foresee where our “moderation lite” policy will take us — we're only human.

Joe Fugate​
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joef

The facts

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I don’t believe that for a split second. They blog here because the MRH forums are a great place to be that has a lot of savy modelers to share and converse with.

The facts: Jim Six contacted me offline and said he would blog on here if he could have control of his own blog, so we assured him we allowed that but to please check with us first before doing anything rash. Had we told Jim no, we won’t allow that, he would not have blogged here. It’s unfortunate Jim didn’t check first before deleting his blog posts, but Jim does have a history of shutting things down without warning ...

The facts: A number of better modelers have blogs elsewhere (like Bernie Kempinski, for example) and I’ve asked them why they don’t blog on the MRH site? The typical answer: I need total control of my blog and I can’t get that on the MRH site.

You can believe what you want but them's the facts as they say.

Joe Fugate​
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ctxmf74

"Ownership of content is a

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"Ownership of content is a tightrope we walk."

  I think you need to look at it as sharing info ,not ownership of content. The blog owner who deletes a whole post is not just deleting his own stuff he's deleting other folks stuff. It shows a lack of respect for those who took the time to post on that subject. Perhaps you could have settings that allow staff to  delete  inappropiate postings but not a whole thread?  My guess is that bloggers who post to support the hobby and share info wouldn't have a problem with not being able to delete their whole threads ? ..DaveB

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