railandsail

I have been searching for many hours today to find an internet image of a bedroom layout I recall seeing a number of years ago when I was looking thru MANY magazines for model railroad items scenery, layout designs etc. I was searching in response to a particular person who was looking for just such information. I recall making copies of this layout idea to be passed out at my friends train shop, to those city people who just might be looking for a 'bedroom/spare room layout'.

I was surprised when I could not find it on my computer, nor HD, nor scanner history, nor the internet !

Perhaps it was just too old, being a 1956 image.      Images next
 

Brian

1) First Ideas: Help Designing Dbl-Deck Plan in Dedicated Shed
2) Next Idea: Another Interesting Trackplan to Consider
3) Final Plan: Trans-Continental Connector

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railandsail

Bedroom Images

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rickwade

Must be a bachelor bedroom as

Must be a bachelor bedroom as I seriously doubt the Mrs. would allow such a thing!

Rick

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The Richlawn Railroad Website - Featuring the L&N in HO  / MRH Blog  / MRM #123

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railandsail

for a Son who Loves Trains

You mean you wouldn't build such a layout for your young son who has fallen in love with trains?

PS: Mom would just have to go along with the idea....ha...ha

(from an older guy who never had kids of his own, ....but had a GREAT father that indulged his 2 son's adventures/explorations)

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Bedroom layout

My parents encouraged me to build a layout in my bedroom and even helped pay for lumber to relocated the bed above the closet (vaulted ceiling). The layout was a logging theme and my first attempts at laying my own rail and switches.  It wrapped around three sides of the room (including blocking off the sliding door the the exterior which I had to duck under to get directly outside - not really code compliant!). 

Living in the Pacific Northwest required a Shay so I managed to build the MDC model and it growled around the Plywood Pacific for a year or so until we remodeled the house and the layout came down. I kept that Shay for years until it was finally lost to my own children learning about trains.

(I just realized that that was 40 years ago!)

Neil Erickson, Hawai’i 

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Kelly kregan

That's a nice image but the

That's a nice image but the room is no longer safe as the layout has blocked the secondary egress (windows) to a point that it is a fire trap. Also the closet looks completely blocked. Something a little less complicated would work nicely.

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laming

Kelly makes a good point

Kelly makes a good point about the room is now a fire trap. Never thought of such before.

As for me, what I see is that living with that layout in that room would eventually grow to be MISERABLE. Way too much intrusion into the needed living space, and the overall feel of "clutter and cramp" would drive me nuts eventually. Been there, done that. Trying to fix it now.

Best of luck in whatever you decide!

Andre

Kansas City & Gulf: Ozark Subdivision, Autumn of 1964
 
The "Mainline To The Gulf!"
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rickwade

It looks like a person could

It looks like a person could still get out of the windows by crawling under the bench work to egress through the lower sections of the window.  As far as being too crowded - that would be a personal thing.

Rick

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The Richlawn Railroad Website - Featuring the L&N in HO  / MRH Blog  / MRM #123

Mt. 22: 37- 40

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Second egress window

The second egress window is only required if it serves the bedroom. A storage room for a layout is not even considered a habitable space in some jurisdictions. I agree that the drawing is dated and may not have considered code issues at the time. A double hung window on the ground floor only needs 5 square feet of opening so Rick is right about being able to crawl under to the lower half. This is even true is the floor to grade is up to six feet. 

I think any kid would be thrilled to have a layout in his/her bedroom. Today’s design ideas for shelf layouts seem more practical to build and would cause any of these problems either. 

Neil Erickson, Hawai’i 

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rsn48

Dawson Creek Sub

A friend of mine has a great MRR in his bedroom, I have posted  his layout plan often over the years as  I suggest what he has done works well.  Yes he is a bachelor.  The scale is N.  The layout is getting close to completion as you will see in the pics he has taken. His name is Tim Horton (American translation - being named Ronald McDonald - Tim Hortons is a large coffee and food franchise). No, he is not related to those Hortons.

Scale is a primary design tool that often gets left out in the  equation. I started out in the hobby as an HO'ist, but realized my small bedroom would not allow for the RR empire of my dreams.  I then switched over to N but almost quit it when I bought my first N scale train, transition era.  I found everything to be too small, however when I moved over to the modern era, longer rolling stock became more like modeling in TT scale than N scale.  An SD90 is as long but not as high and wide as an f unit in HO, for example. Eighty five foot length rolling stock were as long as a forty foot car in HO.

http://www.bcrdawsonsub.ca/index.php/layout-design   [For some reason, I get a 404 response when I click on this link, so just type in "Tim Horton Dawson Creek Subdivision" and you'll be good to go, and oh yes, go to his layout page.

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rickwade

Got a 404 error

when clicking on the link.

Rick

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The Richlawn Railroad Website - Featuring the L&N in HO  / MRH Blog  / MRM #123

Mt. 22: 37- 40

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rsn48

See my edited in comment 

See my edited in comment  beside the link.

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Ken Glover kfglover

Link

There is an extraneous character at the end of the URL.

Correct link:  http://www.bcrdawsonsub.ca/index.php/layout-design

Ken Glover,

HO, Digitrax, Soundtraxx PTB-100, JMRI (LocoBuffer-USB), ProtoThrottle (WiThrottle server)

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railandsail

Flipping the Design?

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kfglover

There is an extraneous character at the end of the URL.

Correct link:  http://www.bcrdawsonsub.ca/index.php/layout-design

 

Pretty small radius on that helix.

Made me wonder why they might have considered flipping the plan horizontally so the yard appeared on the right side, and the helix on the left??

 

 

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railandsail

Red Rock Northern - Reconfigured

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/11/t/267963.aspx

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It is the major portion of the “bonus room” over the garage that is our grandson’s bedroom when he visits.  Now he’ll get to sleep (?) in the Train Room.  Not too shabby in my estimation. But in order leave room for his bed and one or two other essentials, I’m limited to the first 80 inches from the left-hand wall, preserving a 24" walking space to the left of the laid out futon whatever the design

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Here is Jerry Boudreaux’s Red Rock Northern from MR’s June (?) 2007 issue. It’s popularity over the years is evident. The forum string “Red Rock Northern Plan MR 07” ( http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/11/t/106033.aspx) has almost 11,700 hits since it opened then.  That’s not counting all the times it can be found in other strings.  Being one who does only what is popular, I have decided to build it for my 12 year-old grandson, who likes to do the train thing when he comes to visit. 

As originally offered, the RRN has 5 great features that meet my needs:

1.    24” minimum curves

2.    #5 turnouts

3.    Grades of 2% or less

4.    A twice-around for continuous running (w/ 3 passing sidings, counting the one in the Red Rock yard)

5.    That nice Red Rock yard can be easily isolated for concurrent switching operations

All of this fits my theme of freight operations from the early ‘50s with early Geeps, a brace of F3s, a 2-6-2, and a Genesis MT-4 (for which Athearn recommends a minimum 22” radius).  As the budget is largely getting thrown at new track and turnouts, I’m not initially planning to upgrade to DCC.  Everything seems quite acceptable – except for the space available.  Here is the room:

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Size

Brian - I've forgotten the size of your handy shed but the width and length of this layout helps with the grade of 2% and separation between the upper and lower lines. Since you are open to a helix then these are no longer issues. A narrow or shorter space should be ok if the upper line is on an upper deck connected by the helix. Just a thought. 

Neil Erickson, Hawai’i 

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Size

Brian - I've forgotten the size of your handy shed but the width and length of this layout helps with the grade of 2% and separation between the upper and lower lines. Since you are open to a helix then these are no longer issues. A narrow or shorter space should be ok if the upper line is on an upper deck connected by the helix. Just a thought. 

Neil Erickson, Hawai’i 

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railandsail

Size

@Neil

That layout is 9x11 and my shed is 11x15 on its interior, so yes you are correct it would fit very easy.

i just don't think it has enough space for me to locate a fair number of industries etc that I hope to put on mine?

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Industries

Have you posted what you want to include? Again, if you double deck then there should be quite a bit of room on either/or both levels for mines & factories, harbors, etc. don’t let the track plan limit your imagination as much as provide inspiration. 

Neil Erickson, Hawai’i 

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railandsail

Givens and Druthers list

Neil, I'm actually working on my Givens/Druthers list (as has been suggested by a number of folks on this forum), and plan on making a list of structures I would wish to place on the layout. This list will probably be divided into 2 list, very hopeful, and secondarily hopeful ones. I'm thinking I will supplement the 'list' with references to photos of each example structure that I have stored away somewhere,...Givens-Druthers Photo List, in addition to a text list.

(I have so many structures both unbuilt and built that I've collected over the past 10 years, it is going to be difficult to choose...ha...ha)

I'm back to seriously looking at the Tupper Lake design, and those modifications that had been suggested to that plan by yourself and several others. It offers just a bit more variety than this Red Rock plan.

 

 

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sterbejj

Bedroom Images Original Publication

If I understand the original post correctly, the original poster was looking for the reference from which he posted the images.  The original article appeared in Model Railroader magazine for November 1956, starting on page 54.

V/r,

Casey Sterbenz

OSK #8

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Deemiorgos

Rick, my better half and I

Rick, my better half and I had a bedroom with a layout in it at one time because we only had a one bedroom condo.

She liked it, but preferred we had another bedroom for our hobbies.

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Dan Pugatch Breakwater Branch

I think it's a rad layout and

I think it's a rad layout and idea. What I would have given to have a bedroom layout as a kid! I'm not a fan of turntables other than that I modify this layout for my basement using #6 turnouts.
Freelance HO Scale set in 1977-1984 Portland, Maine.
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Deemiorgos

Pugatch and Son, Keep us

Pugatch and Son,

Keep us posted with updates and images of your layout's progress. Thanks for the link to it.

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krhodes1

I'm doing something very similar

I am working on a similar project in my bedroom  -  I LOVE that you painted the edge of the benchwork the same color as the walls, I didn't think of doing that. Same sort of thing, up high over the dresser and bookshelves. Mine is starting out as 8'x5.5' "L" nominally 18" deep for this part. What are you going to do for lighting? I think I am going to put a shelf up above the layout  and run holders for LED strip off the shelves - it's a very small house so I could use the storage.

It's just an industrial switching area with the main curving around the L with spurs running off it. But I plan to expand into other parts of the room with a couple of removable doorway and window bridges. So nothing blocked permanently. It's built in two 4' and one 2.5' section anyway - designed to keep growing in sections and move someday. Theme is 1950s urban industrial, I have a bunch of Maine Central equipment I am going to run. Proto 0-6-0, Alco HH660, and a Broadway SW7, all with sound. Should be fun, I have the benchwork about 7/8ths done, all ripped Baltic birch plywood and coming along nicely. I'm going to start a thread at some point about it.

Kevin Rhodes

Port Charlotte FL / Westbrook ME

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