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Prolific poster 8,816 posts railandsail Prolific poster 8,816 posts
railandsail

B&O loco fantasy paint scheme paint job.

Looking thru some of my inventory the other day, and ran across this unfinished project/idea. It originated when I saw an 'unusual' paint scheme that actually appeared on some B&O passenger cars. At first I wanted to know if the passenger cars actually appeared in those colors ?

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When I found out they did, then I began to visualize some alternatives to the locomotive paint jobs that might have matched up with those particular passenger cars. I didn't want to abandon the colors that B&O used, but rather to just 'rearrange' them.

Here are 2 renderings I made up very quickly,...and please note that the color pens I had at the time are not the true B&O colors that I intended to use on the actual paint job....just getting a feel for the arrangement and striping alternatives.

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I have a few 'undecorated' versions of these locos already waiting for these paint jobs (when I become better aquainted with the process).

 

Brian

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railandsail Prolific poster 8,816 posts
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Prototype Colors

I think it would have made a nicer looking loco than the prototype?

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Brian

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railandsail Prolific poster 8,816 posts
railandsail

I know this subject might be sacrilege, but it came back to mine the other day when i ran across these un-decorated Proto 2000 units I had purchased with this in mind. I was having a hard time finding ANY of the images or mention of the subject, until I found this one this morning.

Wonder if someone with painting skills might have an interesting in helping me with such a project.

(And BTW,  I do have a few normal such B&O locos to run on my layout,...and both colors of passenger cars).

Brian

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railandsail Prolific poster 8,816 posts
railandsail

I am a little bit color blind, so I am asking for help with some colors on these items.

Is this passenger car basically ss coloring on its roof and lower side panels, then a dark blue strip with gold/yellow B&O, then a grey strip along the window areas?

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Does this one have a black top, with a dk blue strip and gold lettering, then a tan strip along the window areas?
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And these?
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Somewhat the same sort of coloring, except the side paneling is NOT ss, so it is painted dark blue?
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The window strips appear to be several different colors,.....tan, lt grey, lt blue ???

Brian

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railandsail Prolific poster 8,816 posts
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Walther's Capitol Limited passenger train,..

Brian

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Chris VanderHeide cv_acr Super User 2,351 posts
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railandsail wrote:

I am a little bit color blind, so I am asking for help with some colors on these items.

Is this passenger car basically ss coloring on its roof and lower side panels, then a dark blue strip with gold/yellow B&O, then a grey strip along the window areas?



Yes. Raw stainless except for the letter board above the windows.

railandsail wrote:
Does this one have a black top, with a dk blue strip and gold lettering, then a tan strip along the window areas?

  
Yes. With yellow or gold pinstriping along the letterboard band.


railandsail wrote:
And these?


Stainless w/ tan band through the windows.


railandsail wrote:
Somewhat the same sort of coloring, except the side paneling is NOT ss, so it is painted dark blue?


Yes.
  

 

railandsail wrote:

The window strips appear to be several different colors,.....tan, lt grey, lt blue ???



The last model pictured appears to be a light grey in the light areas.

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railandsail Prolific poster 8,816 posts
railandsail
So it appears as though the prototypes used light-blue or light-grey in the window bands. I have yet to find one with a tan color there, but I seem to recall seeing that years ago when I was first trying to determine if those Rivarossi cars were true to life??

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railandsail Prolific poster 8,816 posts
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Silver Truck Frames?
 
Do you think this car ever actual existed in reality?  (posted above)
[B_O_Napanee_Paint_2]

Brian

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Robert (Robin) Mountenay RMM Regular poster 296 posts
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Yes, the observation car is a model of an actual B&O obs.  I believe that the difference in window bands exists because the dome and the obs were made by two different car builders.  Budd, who built the dome, used stainless steel as a structural component.  The window area, as well as the bulk of the car, is stainless.  Pullman Standard, who (I believe) made the obs, used stainless steel fluting as a decorative add-on.  Apparently, there was considerable rusting of the steel sides under the stainless panels as water seeped in on PS cars. Anyway, the window band of the obs is painted to match the window band on B&O’s smooth side equipment.

Incidentally, I rode B&O’s National Limited as a small child and might have ridden in that very dome car.IMG_0951.jpeg
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railandsail Prolific poster 8,816 posts
railandsail
So that window band area is sort of a tan or grey area?
 
And the trucks on the model are silver, but black on the prototype??
(excuse my color blindness)

Brian

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MrBandO New member 26 posts
MrBandO
Baltimore and Ohio passenger cars were painted blue and GRAY--there was never a tan color used (unless it was sometime in the 19th century....).  B&O did have the 1949 Columbian delivered from P-S with Silver trucks, but those only lasted until the first 3-year repainting (if that long) when they became black.
 
So, standard paint for B&O passenger cars in the 1950's,  heavyweight and lightweight was black roof, blue letterboard, gray window stipe, blue from belt rail down to the bottom, black underbody, black trucks.  Ends were blue, on heavyweight cars the gray wrapped around the end by six to nine inches or so; lightweight cars the gray ended at the edge of the side.  Lettering and striping were DULUX, not yellow or gold.  (Dulux is an imitation gold, and is sort of a brown mustardy yellow color--Champ had it nailed on their decal sets).  Stripes ranged from two to four on passenger cars, generally, two stripes on heavyweights (one above the gray window band, one below), three on streamstyled heavyweights (only late 40s to early 50s?), above and below the gray band, and along the bottom of the car, and four on lightweight, smooth side cars, one at the top of the letterboard, one at the bottom, one below the belt rail, and one at the bottom of the car.
 
Exceptions to above:
1)  The blunt end P-S observation pictured above had the gray strip wrap around the vestibule end to the diaphragm.
2)  P-S cars with fluting had the gray band, blue letterboard (with two stripes) and black roof.
3)  Budd built cars had only a blue letterboard with no striping. 
 
As always, you should find a picture of the prototype around the year you are modeling to be sure of the paint.
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