leonz

Good morning,

I hope to model the Great Northern system from Skykomish to Wellington and beyond to Cascade tunnel station and beyond in a modern time line using the 1929 maps to recreate a present day mjuch more modern construction for the entire line of switch backs with only the original circa. 1929 cascade tunnel and the mountain crossing both for two way traffic using N scale works and I would like to find the best text available to create this mountain railroad using modern electric and smaller diesel locomotives and rolling stock and many real caboose-not the shoving platforms in this fictional railroad scheme. 

Any help would be sincerely appreciated as I am getting N gauge fever.

 

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Michael Whiteman

If you Google

Iron Goat Trail you will find more information than you can imagine.  If you want to model modern times, I don't understand your desire for switchbacks.  I would also contact the Great Northern Historical Society because they would have all the answers for you also.  I have hiked the entire distance before the parks department went in and made it a historical place with all the amenities. There are two geological survey maps from the U.S. Department Of The Interior that show the entire route, both old and new.  They primary map is named SCENIC QUADRANGLE WASHINGTON and the adjoining map which shows the tunnel and the east portal is named LABYRINTH  MTN. WASHINGTON.  Copies of these will be a great help in designing your layout, I think.  Any of the Great Northern books will have nice color pictures to show you what locomotives and rolling stock will work for you.  Best wishes with your future endeavor.

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Mark Pruitt Pruitt

Leonz,

You're going to model the line to the 1909 Cascade Tunnel that was abandoned in 1929 in favor of the big tunnel that's still in use (the clue is including Wellington, which was up at the west portal of the old tunnel)? If you want to stay reasonably accurate to the prototype, you wouldn't have any actual switchbacks, as the first tunnel was built to eliminate those (no requirement for that, of course - if you want both, go for it!).

Do you mean you want to model the very twisty line up to the old Cascade Tunnel (not really switchbacks, as the train never has to reverse to continue the climb)?

There is a huge amount of data available on this line, and some of scenery is breathtaking! You might want to see if you can get a copy of Lines West by Charles Wood. That book, and another he wrote (I think called simply "The Great Northern Railway") have an abundance of photos and data on this line. As Michael Whiteman said, the Great Northern Railway Historical Society is a great resource, too.

I explored this line back in the late 1980's / early 1990's before the Iron Goat Trail was even started. With the Trail in place now, you can walk nearly the entire line from the "new" tunnel.

Let us know what you come up with - I for one would love to see how you approach modeling this area!

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sanchomurphy

1893-1900 and Reading Materials

Leonz,

It is definitely an interesting line to look at, although I don't know why you would want to model modern day over the old line? Had you considered pre-1900? For 7 years on the line prior to the first tunnel in 1900, there were multiple switchbacks to the actual top of the pass. This offers lots of operation, short trains, steep grades, double headers, snowsheds, and trestles. It was also the biggest obstacle on the railway prior to electrification and the tunnels. In my opinion, the photos and history of this time are vastly more interesting than post 1929 in this area. Plus, you could do HO in about the same amount of space. Regardless, read up before you get too deep.

 

Become a member of the Great Northern Railway Historical Society and get access to a wealth of resources on this subject.

https://www.gnrhs.org/tag/membership/

 

Check out their archives.

http://www.gn-npjointarchive.org/_layouts/15/start.aspx#/default.aspx

 

Read this excellent story on the line and the greatest avalanche disaster in US history.

The White Cascade

  By Gary Krist

https://www.amazon.com/White-Cascade-Northern-Deadliest-Avalanche/dp/0805083294

 

Enjoy!

-Sean Murphy

Great Northern, Northern Pacific, and Burlington Northern 3D Prints and Models
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/sean-p-murphy-designs
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BruceNscale

Body Mount couplers

Hi Leonz,

It sounds like wonderful project.

I'd recommend using body mounted couplers to make the cars easier to push uphill.

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Happy Modeling, Bruce

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laming

An 1893 Stevens Pass

An 1893 Stevens Pass w/switchbacks-type layout sounds VERY INTERESTING!

Andre

Kansas City & Gulf: Ozark Subdivision, Autumn of 1964
 
The "Mainline To The Gulf!"
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