Kirk W kirkifer
My "mainlines" have 42" radius curves, around the walls. Often, I don't worry about operations and I just like to watch the trains run. However, I do like operations and I want "local freights" and switch jobs to have something to do other than work a few inches from the mainline. So, my thought is to have branch lines with much tighter radii than the mainlines. If I do 3x the car length, most "local" cars should work and look okay on 22" radius track, correct? The plan is to have a port where a terminal railroad will switch shorter general merchandise cars on tight radius track. The mainline railroad will switch intermodal on broad radius track. A coal branch will again be tight radius and be operated by a shortline that has 4 axle units and short six axle units. So, does this sound realistic?
Kirk Wakefield
Avon, Indiana
 

 

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Deemiorgos

Is there a reason why you

Is there a reason why you can't have a larger radius? 22 seems awfully tight even for a branch line. 

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Kirk W kirkifer

I suspect many radii to come

So the branches will be just for operations purposes. My overall basement are is 22'x24' and I was originally going to just do around the walls. Then I thought about operations and I thought that a tighter radius will allow me to do more things in a tighter space. I am asking this questions, just because I want to see what the overall opinion would be.

Kirk Wakefield
Avon, Indiana
 

 

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ctxmf74

 "I thought about operations

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 "I thought about operations and I thought that a tighter radius will allow me to do more things in a tighter space."

If 22" is required to get the branchline operations you want  then go for it. Lots of layouts have been built with 22" or even 18 " curves . Should be no problem for most freight cars and 50 foot cars and 4 axle diesels or small steam will look fine on it. Keep the grades as flat as possible as tight radius and steep grades double the problems of either alone.....DaveB

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Deemiorgos

I suggest you lay some spare

I suggest you lay some spare track on a board to see how your rolling stock looks on it. Sometimes even a short coal car on such a tight radius can look very non prototypical to the point of looking toyish especially with a loco on it. When I see HO scale rolling stock on such tight radii, it looks like and reminds me of the old Lionel Trains on tight radii. To each his own. 

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cp5170

2 cents worth

I  would  use 4 - axle  units  on the branch  lines.  6 - axle diesel units don't  like tight curves.

Ken  

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HN1951

coal branch

Yes, 22 in radii would work.  Keeping in mind the 4-axle diesel comment earlier, a string of hoppers snaking along tight curves is very common with coal branches.  In fact my RR's focus is exactly that and uses GP-7s & GP-9s, and steam loco such as 2-8-0's and 2-6-6-2's.

Rick G.

Rick G.
​C&O Hawks Nest Sub-division c. 1951

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David Husman dave1905

Switching intermodal?

Intermodal trains don't have much switching to them.  They load the boxes on the cars in block.

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Kirk W kirkifer

Good point on the intermodal

You're right, In fact so many unit trains are just kinda boring and that is why I wanted to work a busy port and a coal branch into the overall layout. If I feel like just watching something run, the big engines with an intermodal or some other unit train. If I feel like switching, I can work at the port or the coal branch or something...

I hate tight radii but something has to give. There is just so much space. 4 axle locos to work the port and the coal branch. They will block the cars and drop them in a small yard for collection by the "around the walls" SD70s, ES44s etc.

Kirk Wakefield
Avon, Indiana
 

 

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Randy A. Dragenrider

Four axles on the branch

Like you, I wanted the interest of a coal branch.  My layout's branch line consists of 18 inch curves and 4% grades.  The six axle engines don't perform well there but the four axle engines have no problems.  With good track laying it's possible to back a string hoppers anywhere on the branch line.  Good luck with yours!

 

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